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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Saintaintso Did I refer to any saying we needed thugs ? Negative ... I said there is a clear drop off of talent when playing physical teams ... We are soft , and what they say about ...

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Old 01-21-2014, 07:51 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Saintaintso View Post
Did I refer to any saying we needed thugs ? Negative ... I said there is a clear drop off of talent when playing physical teams ... We are soft , and what they say about us is apparent and true ... From the gate we are in damage control mode against physical teams and it shows , we play different , we play intimidated

I say physical and automatically think of thugs ? Give me a team of physical freaks you can keep the finesse offense because against the cream of the crop it don't work !!!

We had like a 5 game lead in our division and lost to a team we had no business losing to because they play with a chip on their shoulders ( Carolina ) ... And your going to tell me were just fine ???

Blasphemy !!!!
We were not up 5, the best we were up was 3 and a half after week 5.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:55 PM   #52
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I don't care for Richard Sherman's post game rant or his behavior in general .He is a outstanding CB. Both safeties are outstanding. If we could model our D backfield I would love to have another good young FS to pair with Vaccaro. And a bookend playmaker CB to pair with K.Lewis. While we re at a OLB passrusher and a.nother good DE . Top it off with a road grader RT AND better C . The cherry on top would be a WR that also was a threat as a KR.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:10 PM   #53
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For instance ... Do you think we could've won in Green Bay or Carolina as the niners did ? Haha we've never done either with this current " elite " team we supposedly have ... That Green Bay loss sent us to San Fran

That carolina loss sent us to Seattle ... Where we ... You guessed it , got bullied around again in an embarrassing fashion


Yes I do. Green Bay was not good, and Carolina would have had to play us again with an improved Armstead and the fact that they were playoff virgins.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:16 PM   #54
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Meh, things change so fast. I don't think either team is a flash in the pan. But the Packers looked like an invincible dynasty team 2 years ago and this year they barely scraped their way into the playoffs.

In particular I can see Seattle imploding in a couple of years. They've got a lot of loudmouths. Big thug talk and bravado can get you a ways but sooner or later you're going to come up against a better team and all that evaporates.

I do not want the Saints to strive to become like either of these teams. It is not who we are as a team or city. They get their day in the sun right now and that's fine, but they don't have the class and professionalism of organizations like the Saints, Patriots, Packers and a few other teams that aren't a total thugged-out embarrassment to the league.
Green Bay didn't have their starting QB for damn near half a season and still made it. If Brees missed the same number of games as Rodgers we wouldn't have made the playoffs at all. Green Bay will be in the thick of it like it or not for a long time to come.
I agree that Seattle and SF look like the teams to beat for the next few years, but we aren't far off. IT is going to start with fixing our offensive line and adding a WR who can stretch.
Brees was not near as accurate this year because our line gave him absolutely no time in the pocket and he was running for his life and we got to see how good our receivers really are. Brees, when he is protected, makes our receivers look better than they actually are. Don't get me wrong we have good receivers, but no where near great.
This is why it kills me when Falcons fans try and say that Ryan is better than Drew. We saw what happened to Ryan this year when he didn't have elite receivers to throw too. If Brees had Julio and White it wouldn't even be fair.

We draft an early round WR and draft Online and DB with a couple decent free agents sprinkled in and we can be right back at the top.
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:30 AM   #55
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They have Sherman, we have Graham. Every team has their strengths.


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Old 01-22-2014, 12:06 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 View Post
... most fans deep down sense these games are rigged going all the way to the SB. ...
Do they? I guess I am in the minority.
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.....That carolina loss sent us to Seattle ... Where we ... You guessed it , got bullied around again in an embarrassing fashion
we were not bullied around in the Seattle play off game. And it was not embarassing.
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We were not bullied around in the Seattle play off game. And it was not embarassing.
Suit yourself. Our supposedly top tier offense did not score a single point for three whole quarters. Our elite tight end was completely manhandled and neutralized. We fumbled the ball on our own 20, with no one even touching the guy who fumbled, Marshawn went Beastmode on us AGAIN for a TD, our punter bobbled the ball like a kid in pee wee and kicked a 19 yard punt, and you weren't embarrassed? Like I said, suit yourself.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:57 PM   #58
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Green Bay didn't have their starting QB for damn near half a season and still made it.
Yes, because their division was straight garbage. This team with this defense could have easily gone 8-8 with McCown at QB, especially considering how ineffective Brees/offense were down the stretch.
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Suit yourself. Our supposedly top tier offense did not score a single point for three whole quarters. Our elite tight end was completely manhandled and neutralized. We fumbled the ball on our own 20, with no one even touching the guy who fumbled, Marshawn went Beastmode on us AGAIN for a TD, our punter bobbled the ball like a kid in pee wee and kicked a 19 yard punt, and you weren't embarrassed? Like I said, suit yourself.
If you were embarrassed by that game, I would hate to be around you regularly because you must be the most negative person on earth. We were never down by more than 2 scores and yet you act like we lost by 30. Have some pride in yourself and your team. This was a good season, stop trying to make it into something bad.
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If you were embarrassed by that game, I would hate to be around you regularly because you must be the most negative person on earth. We were never down by more than 2 scores and yet you act like we lost by 30. Have some pride in yourself and your team. This was a good season, stop trying to make it into something bad.
I was embarrassed for them......we are so much better than that. We need to up grade the Oline at center and RT so we can run the damn ball. We also need a speedy receiver who can actually stretch the field and then contest the corner for the ball.
This team needs upgrade at least four key positions......assuming Armstread is the answer at LT.
We need another impact corner and safety this season as well right now!
No, we are not the same team of destiny. But we can be again with the right moves. We are an 11-5 team.
If we want to play better we need to replace a few starters with fresh talented meat and speed. No, we are not an elite team.....but we are damn well rounded with a ton of potential.


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