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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders. Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded. Robinson ...

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Old 02-02-2014, 04:57 AM   #21
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age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders.

Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded.

Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses.

Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC
WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC
DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC

Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC


In some games he ran better than PT
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I just had a fleeting thought. With the abnormally high amount of receptions PT had this season, was he being vetted as the Sproles roll replacement in our offense.

Different running styles yes but the utilization was the same.

Sproles may be the odd man out.
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Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded.

Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses.

Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC
WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC
DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC

Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC


In some games he ran better than PT

1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue.

Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point

our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet

Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field.

PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game.

Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other

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1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue.

Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point

our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet

Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field.

PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game.

Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other

1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st
Down success and we pass first.

Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing?

We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well.
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1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st
Down success and we pass first.

Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing?

We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well.
well there goes the screen game and picking up the blitz as a need to make this as a running back.

to many one year wonders in pro ball to hang your hat on any player. proof is with time.
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well there goes the screen game and picking up the blitz as a need to make this as a running back.

to many one year wonders in pro ball to hang your hat on any player. proof is with time.

Deuce faired well
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Deuce faired well

OK??? who did duce share the back field with?
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OK??? who did duce share the back field with?
Deuces last healthy season when he was running like Deuce.
2006 attempts
Deuce - 244
Bush - 155
Stecker - 4
McAfee - 0
Branch -0

In 2007 Deuce was injured. (No RB was healthy enough to start all 16 games but Stecker and he wasnt getting it done)
Bush 157 ran more hash to hash then endzone to endzone
Stecker 115
Thomas 52
Deuce 24

2008 Deuces last season he was done (No RB was healthy for all 16 games)
Thomas 129
Deuce 107
Bush 106
Stecker 8
Bell -13


2009 Deuce was gone (no RB stayed healthy all season)
Eckel - 2
Hamilton - 35
Thomas 147
Bell - 172
Bush - 70


When Sean Payton had a Deuce that ran like a Deuce he got the 250 carries a season. Since then we have yet to have the freight train that could get it done and stay healthy. I do believe Sean thought that Ingram was going to be that man which is why he spent a 1st rounder on him. He wasnt.

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