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Euphoria 01-31-2014 08:27 AM
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I think we take a shot at a QB to start developing here...

TheOak 01-31-2014 09:35 AM
Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 12 Quarterback
 
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Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 576333)
I've often wondered this.. And I finally got around to doing the stat crunching. We all know Peyton Manning has better "career" stats than Brees does, but that's only because Manning has been a starter for 15 seasons while Brees has only done it for twelve. So I decided to number crunch, and here are what their stats look like if you just compare their first twelve seasons as a starter

Brees:
186 games played
4466 completions
6772 attempts
65.6 completion %
50680 yards
362 TDs
177 INTs
94.3 rating

Manning:
192 games played
4232 completions
6531 attempts
64.8 completion %
50128 yards
366 TDs
181 INTs
95.6 rating


So Brees beats Peyton in every stat except for QB rating and TDs, while doing it in less games... Interesting. :bng:
Take a look at the receiving talent that Manning has/had and the Brees numbers are even more impressive.

TheOak 01-31-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 576396)
I think we take a shot at a QB to start developing here...
I see this comment a lot.. The "play under Drew Brees and develop".

When has Sean Payton shown to be a coach that wants to develop his starting QB?

The veteran QB cap space has been made and worked around, I say he goes after another veteran FA.

Rugby Saint II 01-31-2014 12:17 PM
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When I say at least 2-3 years left I mean that, but he could have five years or more at a very high level. He takes good care of his body. Which is possible even with a reconstructed shoulder.
Most people can't throw a ball again with that type of injury. When Payton brought him in we didn't know how well he would do. We've been lucky. Especially, with the number of hits he gets.

TheOak 01-31-2014 01:01 PM
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In 2006 Sean Payton had a choice.

A veteran QB with a reconstructed shoulder that failed a physical in Miami Drew Brees

Draft from Vince, Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Kellen Clemmons, Travaris Jackson, plenty of 3rd round or below QBs.

Rest of the 2006 QB Free agents
Simms
Kitna
McCown
Garcia
Wright
Martin


or Keep Aaron Brooks

He went with probably the biggest gamble of the time because he wanted a smart, veteran QB. This is what he will do again when Drew is gone. I do not see him changing what he wants in a starting QB to a Draft pick project.

exile 01-31-2014 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576428)
Draft from Vince, Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Kellen Clemmons, Travaris Jackson, plenty of 3rd round or below QBs.
We let Matt Leinart go? He could have been our Hall of Fame player. Seriously though, I'm not too afraid to admit that I was lobbying for Leinart. Good news is that no one worth listening was listening.

TheOak 01-31-2014 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exile (Post 576429)
We let Matt Leinart go? He could have been our Hall of Fame player. Seriously though, I'm not too afraid to admit that I was lobbying for Leinart. Good news is that no one worth listening was listening.


Hind sight lol... At that time thought there were a heck of lot safer gambles than Drew Brees.



Sean Payton wants a high IQ QB, and as accurate arm as there is. He knew how accurate Drew was just watching Drew smoke manning in the skills Comp at the Pro-Bowl the previous year lol.



Business wise its hard to go from a 5m a year QB to a 18m a year QB... Once you have been shelling out 18m for a QB you want the next 18m QB to take his place.

There is always the chance this falls into my 20% margin of error though. ;)


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