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SmashMouth 01-30-2014 09:32 PM

Imagine if the New Orleans Saints were successful in their reported attempt to acquire Marshawn Lynch
 
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You probably haven't heard this story from Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch this week. That's because it's a nice anecdote from his otherwise mysterious behavior with the media during the run up to Super Bowl XLVIII, which has dominated most of the headlines.

But a nugget of interest popped up in the brain of Mr. Aloof. What transpired was an extended gasp of nervous energy followed by a rare stream of spoken words during Media Day on Tuesday.

Lynch amazingly revisited his childhood and talked about the first time he dreamed of playing in a Super Bowl.

"It was probably the first time I told my momma I was going to play in the NFL," Lynch said. "I was young, probably (in) Pop Warner, playing for the Saints. It was right there in West Oakland (Calif.). Right there at Raimondi Park, about to bounce out (leave for the game). I told her that. She remembered, though. She reminded me of it, too. Yeah, she'll be here (at the Super Bowl)."

This got me thinking about how Lynch could have actually suited up for the NFL's version of his Pop Warner team. The New Orleans Saints reportedly made a play to acquire Lynch from Buffalo three years before he was jettisoned to Seattle in 2010.
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The Saints apparently wanted Lynch so badly that New Orleans reportedly offered a first-round pick in 2007 for Lynch, then a rookie with the Bills. But this wasn't just some message board rumor material. It was reported by Fox Sports' Jay Glazer, who media-savvy Saints fans recognize never swings and misses when reporting Saints news.

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foreverfan 01-30-2014 09:37 PM

Re: Imagine if the New Orleans Saints were successful in their reported attempt to acquire Marshawn Lynch
 
Gee... you mean we could have won at least 2 more Superbowls. :brood:

dizzle88 01-31-2014 04:35 AM

Re: Imagine if the New Orleans Saints were successful in their reported attempt to acquire Marshawn Lynch
 
Still makes no difference, while ever SP is in charge a back like lynch would not be successful because he wouldnt get the ball enough

Kryptonite 01-31-2014 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 576379)
Still makes no difference, while ever SP is in charge a back like lynch would not be successful because he wouldnt get the ball enough

Amen, brother! We all have been preaching/screaming this since the beginning of time. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS IN THAT BACKFIELD. WE ARE A PASS 1ST, 2ND, AND MOSTLY 3RD TEAM. A. Peterson himself would be mediocre at best on our squad. Next subject!!

hagan714 01-31-2014 07:23 AM

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never know. i know i wanted him here. but people where so against it because of the issues he was having of the field.

TheOak 01-31-2014 07:35 AM

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The comments that Lynch would not be successful, or Peterson would be mediocre on our offense do not pass the logical smell test.

I will make it really quick and painless.

Which one of the following are you ready to tag as mediocre or an unsuccessful runningback?

Darren Sproles
Pierre Thomas

lee909 01-31-2014 07:48 AM

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The one thing you can guarantee wouldn't have happened had the deal gone through was the 49ers game in 2011. Loosing Thomas and the other issues killed us before we got going.Lynch would have ploughed over them in that game.A win there and it was 2 superbowls in three years.

dizzle88 01-31-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576389)
The comments that Lynch would not be successful, or Peterson would be mediocre on our offense do not pass the logical smell test.

I will make it really quick and painless.

Which one of the following are you ready to tag as mediocre or an unsuccessful runningback?

Darren Sproles
Pierre Thomas

When i say lynch would be unsuccessful i probably should have worded it better, allow me to rephrase

lynch is a back that needs 250-300 carries in order to be used to his full potential and warrant his signing

That would not happen in our offense and lynch is not as versatile as either PT or sproles

TheOak 01-31-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 576397)
When i say lynch would be unsuccessful i probably should have worded it better, allow me to rephrase

lynch is a back that needs 250-300 carries in order to be used to his full potential and warrant his signing

That would not happen in our offense and lynch is not as versatile as either PT or sproles

Lynch isn't a RB that needs 250-300 carries or versatility, he is a RB that earns those carries. You don't feed him in hopes it makes something happen, you feed him because he makes something happen.

If you have a Lynch, Deuce, Peterson, McCoy... Your not forcibly feeding them in hopes that you might see something wonderful. You know its coming and you don't have to wait until the 3rd Qtr for them to establish the mythical rhythm to see it.

BTW, Lynch had 37 receptions, that's more than lance Moore and Kenny Stills he is versatile enough.

dizzle88 01-31-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576404)
Lynch isn't a RB that needs 250-300 carries or versatility, he is a RB that earns those carries. You don't feed him in hopes it makes something happen, you feed him because he makes something happen.

If you have a Lynch, Deuce, Peterson, McCoy... Your not forcibly feeding them in hopes that you might see something wonderful. You know its coming and you don't have to wait until the 3rd Qtr for them to establish the mythical rhythm to see it.

BTW, Lynch had 37 receptions, that's more than lance Moore and Kenny Stills he is versatile enough.

And we wouldnt be able to give him those 250-300 carries in our offense so he would be underutilised

lynwood 01-31-2014 10:06 AM

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Seattle uses him the right way, we wouldn't. We use PT and Sproles correctly but get away from the run when Ingram and Robinson produce in straight up handoffs.

We would waste Lynch's talent.

TheOak 01-31-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 576409)
And we wouldnt be able to give him those 250-300 carries in our offense so he would be underutilised

Sure we would. Denver is a pass first team as much as the Saints

Passing Att
Payton Manning 675
Drew Brees 651

Rushing Att
Denver 461
Saints 391

Lynch would get his 240 (What Moreno got) , Ingram would get his 100, Sproles/Robinson/Cadet/PT (which ever we keep) gets 50.

Sean Payton runs the ball when we can run it.
2009 - 461 4.5 YPC
2011 - 431 4.9 YPC

Since 2007 in all seasons that we ave less than 4.5 YPC under Sean Payton we had less than 390 ATT, in all Seasons over 4.5 YPC we had more than 430 att.

He looks at productivity not gross numbers. The better we run, the more we run.. Not vice versa.

TheOak 01-31-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lynwood (Post 576410)
Seattle uses him the right way, we wouldn't. We use PT and Sproles correctly but get away from the run when Ingram and Robinson produce in straight up handoffs.

We would waste Lynch's talent.

I disagree, you have to game plan for what works reliably. Ingram was not reliably good week in and out and Robinson was used sporadically.

We had injuries to Ingram, 1/2 the offensive line, Pierre Thomas... Go back through the play by plays... Sean didnt just stop using them, he stopped using them when they stopped successfully running consistently, and our o-line stopped blocking consistently. (for the most part)

rezburna 01-31-2014 11:18 AM

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Deuce got his carries. We haven't had a Marshawn Lynch caliber of back to warrant those carries since Deuce was in his prime. If you think Pierre Thomas or Sproles could handle running the ball as often as Lynch, or are as talented and deserving you're crazy.

Rugby Saint II 01-31-2014 01:48 PM

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This young kid Robinson might make some people forget about him.

halloween 65 01-31-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 576437)
This young kid Robinson might make some people forget about him.

That would not be a bad thing. We need a power runner to show up every game even if it was for 80 tough, hard fought yards a game that at least wears down the D.

TheOak 01-31-2014 02:19 PM

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Honestly these hind sight news articles from years back are the only reason anyone other than Sproles/Robinson/Thomas/Cadet/Ingram are being thought or talked about.

Other than nothing else to write about, i am not sure why Holder even wrote and published the piece.

Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda means nothing. There is no way of knowing how he would have preformed. Realize how many discussions there would be if we went back and unearthed every player the Saints tried to get but didnt?

Here is the wash and one thing that I do know. It would have been at the expense of Robert Meachem our first round pick and would have cost us Pierre Thomas who we picked up that year in free agency. Sorry I am not willing to give up a Super Bowl for Marchawn Lynch.

Now there is your painted picture.:bng:

frydaddy 01-31-2014 02:51 PM

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Imagine if my aunt had been born with a penis, she'd be my uncle.. pointless fluff piece. Both the article, and my aunt's imaginary dong

papz 01-31-2014 04:37 PM

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It's going to be a long off season.

jeanpierre 01-31-2014 04:56 PM

Re: Imagine if the New Orleans Saints were successful in their reported attempt to acquire Marshawn Lynch
 
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 576441)
Imagine if my aunt had been born with a penis, she'd be my uncle.. pointless fluff piece. Both the article, and my aunt's imaginary dong

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 576444)
It's going to be a long off season.

LMAO...

Luda34 02-03-2014 04:34 PM

Re: Imagine if the New Orleans Saints were successful in their reported attempt to acquire Marshawn Lynch
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 576379)
Still makes no difference, while ever SP is in charge a back like lynch would not be successful because he wouldnt get the ball enough

I agree a 100% and I was a guy who wanted Lynch back then


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