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TheOak 02-03-2014 07:24 AM

Two teams One Defense
 
Derw Brees (in Seattle):
Week 13
147 yards passing
0 Ints
1 TDs
1 Sack
TOTAL Rushing Yards 44
Points Scored 7

Division Round Playoffs (In Seattle)
309 yards Passing
24/43
0 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL Yards Rushing 108
Points Scored 15

Payton Manning (In New Jersey)
280 yards
34/49
2 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL yards rushing 27
Points Scored 8

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Remember all of the comments from fans and members?
Drew is done
Our offense is soft
We cant run
Wish we had Denver's receivers
Wish we had Payton Manning
Wish we had a RB like Moreno
Sean Payton is a terrible play caller

Apples to apples except we played Seattle in the Clink.


We out ran, passed and scored, the greatest offense in history that had never faced a top 5 NFC defense in that season until the Super Bowl.

Ill take Payton, Brees, our WRs, our RBs, our entire team of the heralded Payton Manning any and every day of the week.:bng:

SmashMouth 02-03-2014 08:09 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
It also gives us an insight into our team needs to improve our personnel as we will be facing this team again in the playoffs next year... until their cap is crushed with their soon to be pricey players.

TheOak 02-03-2014 08:22 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 576762)
It also gives us an insight into our team needs to improve our personnel as we will be facing this team again in the playoffs next year... until their cap is crushed with their soon to be pricey players.

Lets just see how much a Super Bowl Championship adds to the price of their free agents for 2014.

2013 Cap hits for Free agents
Bennett DE 4.8M
Giacomini RT 4.2m
McQuistian LT 3.3m
Tate WR 800k
Browner CB 700k
Baldwin WR 560k
Haushka K 620k

Their top 2 Receivers are up
two of their top Sack leaders are up

They walk into 2014 1m over the cap

The rest
Seattle Seahawks Free Agents - 2014

dueceloose 02-03-2014 08:30 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
I still think we could've beat them..

Danno 02-03-2014 08:36 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576763)
Lets just see how much a Super Bowl Championship adds to the price of their free agents for 2014.

2013 Cap hits for Free agents
Bennett DE 4.8M
Giacomini RT 4.2m
McQuistian LT 3.3m
Tate WR 800k
Browner CB 700k
Baldwin WR 560k
Haushka K 620k

Their top 2 Receivers are up
two of their top Sack leaders are up

They walk into 2014 1m over the cap

The rest
Seattle Seahawks Free Agents - 2014

And the following year is Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, James Carpenter, Cliff Averil, Richard Sherman, Malcolm Smith, KJ Wright and several others.

lee909 02-03-2014 08:39 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
You won't see many dynasty teams anymore with the high QB pay and salary cap. Its all about everyone having a level playing field (well except the Jags and Browns). Its a bit like communism without the cool beards.

exile 02-03-2014 08:44 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
I was thinking the same. The Broncos O-Line looked eerily like the Saints. Chalk it up to that defense and call it a day.

foreverfan 02-03-2014 08:49 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 576772)
I was thinking the same. The Broncos O-Line looked eerily like the Saints. Chalk it up to that defense and call it a day.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...DefenseCat.png

Danno 02-03-2014 08:49 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 576771)
You won't see many dynasty teams anymore with the high QB pay and salary cap. Its all about everyone having a level playing field (well except the Jags and Browns). Its a bit like communism without the cool beards.

Except competitive balance spreads good players, whereas communism and socialism would spread the bad ones.

dam1953 02-03-2014 08:57 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
We out ran, passed and scored, the greatest offense in history that had never faced a top 5 NFC defense in that season until the Super Bowl.

Ill take Payton, Brees, our WRs, our RBs, our entire team of the heralded Payton Manning any and every day of the week.:bng:[/QUOTE]

And the Saints put those numbers up in Seattle, in the cold and blowing rain where Manning and company had near perfect football weather.

In my opinion the Saints need to focus on upgrading the O-line to buy Brees more time in the pocket. Then get some real speed to stretch the D-secondary and make use of that extra time.

K Major 02-03-2014 09:02 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
That Seattle defense was just that good.. pretty much all season long. For entertainment value, the Superbowl game was played 2 weeks ago (49ers vs Seattle). Very little 'pop and sizzle' to this one.

Danno 02-03-2014 09:08 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 576780)
That Seattle defense was just that good.. pretty much all season long. For entertainment value, the Superbowl game was played 2 weeks ago (49ers vs Seattle). Very little 'pop and sizzle' to this one.

Yep, the top 4 teams in the NFL are Seattle, San Fran, Carolina and New Orleans.

My final top 10 power rankings...

1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. New Orleans
4. Arizona
5. Carolina
6. Denver
7. New England
8. Cincinatti
9. Kansas City
10. Indianapolis

exile 02-03-2014 09:11 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576781)
My final top 10 power rankings...

1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. New Orleans
4. Arizona

Top 4. Shouldn't we get a Bowl Game? Like the Tostitos Stale Chips Bowl?

TheOak 02-03-2014 09:13 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 576771)
You won't see many dynasty teams anymore with the high QB pay and salary cap. Its all about everyone having a level playing field (well except the Jags and Browns). Its a bit like communism without the cool beards.

Its not only QBs Lee.

2014 Cap Hits

#2 Suh 22m
#6 Mario Williams 18.8m
#8 peppers 18.1M
#9 Fitzgerald 18m
#14 Wallace 17.2m
#16 Johnson 16.4m
#17 Ware 16m
#18 Ngata 16m
#18 Revis 16m
#21 Johnson 15.6m
#22 McCoy 15.6m
#23 Cromartie 14.9m
#24 Long 14.9m

Teams with Multiple top 25 Cap hits
Chicago -2
Tampa bay - 2
Dallas - 2
Detroit - 2
Stl -3


Of the top 25 Cap Hits for 2014 only 13 are QBs.
2014 NFL Top Cap Hit Salaries

CoreyO 02-03-2014 09:13 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576753)
Derw Brees (in Seattle):
Week 13
147 yards passing
0 Ints
1 TDs
1 Sack
TOTAL Rushing Yards 44
Points Scored 7

Division Round Playoffs (In Seattle)
309 yards Passing
24/43
0 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL Yards Rushing 108
Points Scored 15

Payton Manning (In New Jersey)
280 yards
34/49
2 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL yards rushing 27
Points Scored 8

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Remember all of the comments from fans and members?
Drew is done
Our offense is soft
We cant run
Wish we had Denver's receivers
Wish we had Payton Manning
Wish we had a RB like Moreno
Sean Payton is a terrible play caller

Apples to apples except we played Seattle in the Clink.


We out ran, passed and scored, the greatest offense in history that had never faced a top 5 NFC defense in that season until the Super Bowl.

Ill take Payton, Brees, our WRs, our RBs, our entire team of the heralded Payton Manning any and every day of the week.:bng:

Dont forget those weather conditions we played in at Clink vs the clear SB

alleycat_126 02-03-2014 09:15 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 576767)
I still think we could've beat them..

Change that to can, this is not the last time we will see them if we wanna go further in the playoffs.... And on to the Super Bowl...

TheOak 02-03-2014 09:41 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 576767)
I still think we could've beat them..

HFA decided that playoff game. Nothing more.

Utah_Saint 02-03-2014 11:50 AM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576781)
Yep, the top 4 teams in the NFL are Seattle, San Fran, Carolina and New Orleans.

My final top 10 power rankings...

1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. New Orleans
4. Arizona
5. Carolina
6. Denver
7. New England
8. Cincinatti
9. Kansas City
10. Indianapolis

I'd swap SF with New Orleans and Carolina with Arizona. But otherwise, that's about the way I would have listed them too.

rezburna 02-03-2014 01:22 PM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Seattle, Denver, New Orleans, New England, San Francisco.

MaggieMayTB 02-03-2014 03:26 PM

Re: Two teams One Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576753)
Derw Brees (in Seattle):
Week 13
147 yards passing
0 Ints
1 TDs
1 Sack
TOTAL Rushing Yards 44
Points Scored 7

Division Round Playoffs (In Seattle)
309 yards Passing
24/43
0 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL Yards Rushing 108
Points Scored 15

Payton Manning (In New Jersey)
280 yards
34/49
2 INTs
1 TD
1 Sack
TOTAL yards rushing 27
Points Scored 8

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Remember all of the comments from fans and members?
Drew is done
Our offense is soft
We cant run
Wish we had Denver's receivers
Wish we had Payton Manning
Wish we had a RB like Moreno
Sean Payton is a terrible play caller

Apples to apples except we played Seattle in the Clink.


We out ran, passed and scored, the greatest offense in history that had never faced a top 5 NFC defense in that season until the Super Bowl.

Ill take Payton, Brees, our WRs, our RBs, our entire team of the heralded Payton Manning any and every day of the week.:bng:

You cut out the bull and get to the point.
In my short time here, compared to the tenure of others, I credit your no nonsense / no bull method for increasing my succinct knowledge and ability to provide intelligent retorts to attacking cheeseheads.

With your influence and Danno (for the touch of 'tude)...I shred the cheese.
And with this I say Thank you!


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