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TheOak 02-12-2014 04:45 PM

Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma)
 
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METAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints are expected to make roster cuts soon with Will Smith told he will be released, according to a league source, and Roman Harper appearing to be another casualty based on a tweet Wednesday evening.

The Saints will need to make several moves to get under the salary cap by March 11. They're projected to be around $13 million to $15 million over the cap, and they'll need even more space to re-sign or use the franchise tag on free agent tight end Jimmy Graham.

Harper tweeted a farewell to New Orleans on Wednesday, hinting that he will be released by the Saints.


The moves with Smith, 32, and Harper, 31, are expected because of their diminishing roles and large salaries. But they'll still be difficult ones for the Saints to make. Both are former Pro Bowlers and longtime leaders who have been around since the beginning of the most successful era in franchise history.

Smith, who arrived as a first-round draft pick in 2004, is the longest-tenured player on the Saints' roster. But he missed all of last season with a knee injury, and he is due to earn $11.55 million in the final year of his contract this year. Harper, who is signed through 2015, is due to earn $3.15 million this year.

The Saints can save all of that money against the cap, if they designate Harper as a post-June 1 release. The Saints would still be charged a pro-rated portion of their signing bonuses against the salary cap ($2.39 million for Smith and $2.72 million for Harper).

Smith and Harper are two of only 13 players remaining from the Saints' Super Bowl roster. But it's possible that the Saints could part ways with up to nine of those players this offseason. Linebacker Jonathan Vilma, safety Malcolm Jenkins, offensive tackle Zach Strief and receiver Robert Meachem are unrestricted free agents. And cornerback Jabari Greer, receiver Lance Moore and running back Pierre Thomas are potential salary-cap casualties.

Smith ranks fourth in Saints history with 67.5 career sacks. He had a career-high 13 of them during the Saints' 2009 Super Bowl season. And he had 10.5 of them during his Pro Bowl season in 2006. Before he tore his ACL last summer, Smith had only missed five games in his first nine seasons.

Harper, a second-round draft pick in 2006, started 104 games, with 17 sacks, 14 forced fumbles and seven interceptions. He made the Pro Bowl in 2009 and 2010.

New Orleans Saints to cut Will Smith, Roman Harper - ESPN

New Orleans Saints part ways with Jabari Greer, Roman Harper, Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma

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kcsaints 02-12-2014 04:47 PM

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Roman Harper announced it on his Facebook page
To the city of New Orleans and it's fans .... THANK YOU for the 8 years of ‪#‎GreatMemories‬ ‪#‎WHODAT‬ ‪#‎SBXLIVCHAMPS‬

CoreyO 02-12-2014 04:51 PM

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Smith , Greer, harper, and vilma cut

ChrisXVI 02-12-2014 04:56 PM

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Necessary moves. This is what it's like having a smart GM.

exile 02-12-2014 04:56 PM

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Greer? That's a surprise.

CoreyO 02-12-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 577885)
Greer? That's a surprise.

Hes getting a little old might be hard for him to get back to speed with that injury

73Saint 02-12-2014 05:01 PM

First casualties...Greer, Harper, Smith & Vilma
 
New Orleans Saints part ways with Jabari Greer, Roman Harper, Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma

lsusaint912 02-12-2014 05:01 PM

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Don't like the greer cut.. Dont care what people think.. I loved the dude.. i would have cut Vilma over greer

The Dude 02-12-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 577885)
Greer? That's a surprise.

Don't think he will ever be the same after injury. They did him a favor so he would have time to heal and catch on elsewhere.

CoreyO 02-12-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lsusaint912 (Post 577888)
Don't like the greer cut.. Dont care what people think.. I loved the dude.. i would have cut Vilma over greer

But it wassnt one over the other, they were both cut. We need alot of cutting and restructuring to afford graham and get some free agents in here

lsusaint912 02-12-2014 05:04 PM

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Ok vilma is gone as well just seen that.. We just get younger and cheaper now im fine with it

ChrisXVI 02-12-2014 05:04 PM

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Nobody said we can't resign Greer for less later on if nobody else signs him and he bounces back from the torn ACL. It just made no sense to keep him at his cap number right now.

rezburna 02-12-2014 05:16 PM

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Good ****. Good ****.

ChrisXVI 02-12-2014 05:18 PM

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Feels good to have such a great GM!

amazin15 02-12-2014 05:19 PM

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so how much cap space does these moves give us?

ChrisXVI 02-12-2014 05:24 PM

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I believe that clears up around $16 million. Just like that we're under the salary cap!

B_Dub_Saint 02-12-2014 05:28 PM

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We all knew this was coming

alleycat_126 02-12-2014 05:28 PM

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There's some of Jimmy's money......

amazin15 02-12-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 577896)
I believe that clears up around $16 million. Just like that we're under the salary cap!

Thats before anymore moves!! Loomis never ceases to amaze me!!

Danno 02-12-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 577898)
There's some of Jimmy's money......

Probably RT, OC money also. Still more to come I'm sure

papz 02-12-2014 05:37 PM

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Greer was too expensive to be a nickel corner. It was a necessary move.

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Nobody said we can't resign Greer for less later on if nobody else signs him and he bounces back from the torn ACL.
Exactly.

RaginCajun83 02-12-2014 05:42 PM

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This is great news, just get rid of Jenkins now

Lord_Saint83 02-12-2014 05:48 PM

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Hate to see Harper, Greer, and Vilma go all are class acts and good people. I hope we can get Grimes or Verner to help Lewis out and sign Jimmy as a TE for starters.

ScottF 02-12-2014 06:08 PM

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So, if they are cut by us today, when is the date we can resign... June 1 or later?

nola_swammi 02-12-2014 06:11 PM

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I hope this a strategy to sign him back at cap friendly salary (Greer). Greer is too great to lose

The Dude 02-12-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 577909)
I hope this a strategy to sign him back at cap friendly salary (Greer). Greer is too great to lose

We have no idea how or even if he will ever recover. Smart move. They will keep an eye on his rehab and see what he's worth.

saintsfan1976 02-12-2014 06:19 PM

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Lets them test the market and be available in case they want to come back.

An early cut is only fair and I don't expect less from this organization

saintsfan1976 02-12-2014 06:21 PM

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Tom Benson, Mickey Loomis, and Sean Payton had this to say today regarding the cuts:

“I would like to thank Jabari, Roman, Will and Jonathan for their contributions on and off the field for the New Orleans Saints over the past several years,” said Saints Owner/Chairman of the Board Tom Benson. “All four of them played important roles in the success of our club and were great players and teammates. In addition, all of them made a significant impact in our community, especially with our youth and helping serve the less fortunate. On behalf of our organization and our fans, we appreciate everything that they have done for us and wish them continued success.”

“These were not easy decisions to make,” said Loomis. “Since we acquired them, Jabari, Roman, Will and Jonathan have all been excellent players on the field for us. Each of them were integral parts in turning this program around and winning a Super Bowl. They were a great example to our players as team leaders in the locker room as well. Will and Roman were two of the better draft picks we have made. Jonathan Vilma has been one of our best trades ever and Jabari Greer has been one of our best free agent signings. These are the kinds of players and people you hope to acquire. However, a new NFL year is about to begin and, with the start of free agency in March, these difficult moves allow us to position our team under the salary cap to move forward for 2014.”

“I have coached and been around a lot of great players and I put these four guys right there at the top,” said Saints Head Coach Sean Payton. “Jabari, Roman, Will and Jonathan all represent and epitomize what we look for in our players. These are disciplined, smart, tough and team-oriented individuals. They all played an important role in helping this team and this city win its first Super Bowl and they have all enjoyed multiple playoff appearances and wins.”

CheramieIII 02-12-2014 06:25 PM

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We could still sign Harper and Greer back at a lot lower prices if they would agree. I wish them all the best of luck.

Vrillon82 02-12-2014 06:27 PM

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They will bring Greer back if hes available later on, but I cant argue with dumping Smith, Harper, and Vilma, those 3 have been thorns in our sides since 2010 season.

Jack Vegas 02-12-2014 06:30 PM

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I love Jabari Greer, he is the only guy out of this bunch I really hate to see go. I have nothing against Harper and Vilma, they contributed a lot but it was time.

Will Smith, I can't stand. Guy never lived up to his billing. He was fat, slow and took a lot of stupid penalties. He wasn't even that good in the Super Bowl year, he had a lot of sacks but was terribly inconsistent.

saintsfan1976 02-12-2014 06:33 PM

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Jack, you're being hard on Smith.

The guy was above average and healthy throughout his career. Charles Grant, however, was a waste of space.

TheEnigma 02-12-2014 06:37 PM

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Surprised we cut Greer. Now we really need a CB. Not surprised by the others though.

Danno 02-12-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 577914)
We could still sign Harper and Greer back at a lot lower prices if they would agree. I wish them all the best of luck.

We probably would have done that in some type of restructure instead of an outright release.

I think we're moving on.

voodooido 02-12-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CoreyO (Post 577881)
Smith , Greer, harper, and vilma cut

Vilma is a FA so he can not be cut. He is just gone.

Danno 02-12-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 577925)
Vilma is a FA so he can not be cut. He is just gone.

Yep, but I imagine they informed him that he's no longer in their plans, so its kinda sorta a cut.

halloween 65 02-12-2014 07:12 PM

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I think Vilma and Smith were overdue, I do thank them for the good years, they were solid. Harper, I like him and if he can get resigned to a lower pay I wouldn't mind resigning him but if he leaves who will we talk about as much on this board. Greer, I would like him back at a lower rate but alot depends on how he heals if no one is brought back thanks to them also.

NonieT 02-12-2014 07:28 PM

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Statement from Will Smith.


Statement from Will Smith on his release from the New Orleans Saints today:

"While it was always my dream to retire as a member of the New Orleans Saints, I recognize that the NFL remains a business first. I will always be grateful to Mr. Benson, Mr. Loomis, and Coach Payton for the opportunity they gave me to play the sport I love in front of football’s greatest fans, amongst some of my best friends. We accomplished great things during my time with the Saints, including winning the first Super Bowl in franchise history, and I am proud of my contributions during the decade I wore black and gold. My wife Racquel and I will continue our commitment to improving lives for New Orleans' youth no matter where my next stop in professional football takes me. I'm in good spirits, thankful and focused on training. My family and I welcome the next chapter in our NFL life. Who Dat!"

Donuts32 02-12-2014 07:36 PM

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I was surprised to see Greer cut. I have respect for all of those guys and love that they were a factor in us getting our first Super Bowl win. They will forever be Saints to me and I hope they continue to have success in whatever they do next. Who Dat!

RailBoss 02-12-2014 08:56 PM

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Love em and leave em! Got to move forward the League is getting younger and more physical.


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