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Euphoria 02-23-2014 09:30 AM

COMBINE: WR's
 
Watching the combine all weekend I think I have changed my mind on a few things. We should make a play for Odell Beckham.

There is about 5 that stand out and I am leaning towards Odell based on where we are sitting.

Darius 02-23-2014 10:05 AM

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One guy who has caught my eye is Martavis Bryant from Clemson guy is 6'4 and runs a sub 4.4 forty yard dash we could get him in the third.

Crusader 02-23-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius (Post 579129)
One guy who has caught my eye is Martavis Bryant from Clemson guy is 6'4 and runs a sub 4.4 forty yard dash we could get him in the third.

Thats the kinda stuff that migh get him picked higher. Teams love big guys who can run.

Ashley 02-23-2014 10:10 AM

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really? wr in the first.

foreverfan 02-23-2014 10:11 AM

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Odell Beckham Jr. Ran a 4.31 at NFL Combine.
Check This Out.




Ashley 02-23-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 579130)
Thats the kinda stuff that migh get him picked higher. Teams love big guys who can run.

Weaknesses
Inconsistent hands -- tends to double-clutch the ball and makes too many easy drops.
thats all I had to read on him, I dont care how big he is

Euphoria 02-23-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 579131)
really? wr in the first.

Oh yeah, its wouldn't be the first time Sean drafted a WR in the first. No one expected him to go WR at the time and he did.

This year there are a lot of good ones and one of these guys will be on the board when we select. I also think at that pick they will be the BPA from what I have seen at the combine so far.

alleycat_126 02-23-2014 10:48 AM

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^^^ Pick him in the second if he's there....

Darius 02-23-2014 10:53 AM

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Yes I really want this guy but I doubt he falls to us in the second but I'll pray

Rsanders24 02-23-2014 11:12 AM

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Jeff Janis 4.30....late round no longer

The Dude 02-23-2014 11:40 AM

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I'm hearing a lot of buzz about him being a perfect fit here. National media as well. Usually I am skeptical of hometown guys because just because someone is hometown doesn't mean they will flourish in their hometown environment when they go pro.
Plus you have a lot of homers that automatically think someone from LSU is gonna be a stud here.

ProMallNinja 02-23-2014 12:23 PM

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Although it's fun to speculate, i think we have a long way to go in Free Agency before we have ANY idea what positions will be prioritized in our draft plans. At this point, with the uncertainty on our offensive line and in our secondary, to think that we can afford to go WR in the first OR second round is a bit crazy. Let's not forget that, at this moment, we do not have a "starting" RT or much in the way of a backup at LT. Also, our secondary is looking mighty thin right now with only Vacarro and Lewis penciled in as surefire starters at this point.

Lord_Saint83 02-23-2014 12:47 PM

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This draft class is so deep with quality mid to late round wr's its not funny. We need to address the defense mostly cb or s and a cover lb in the first three rounds. If this year has shown anyone is that a top offense will lose to a top defense most of the time.

GeauxNOGeaux 02-23-2014 12:49 PM

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Sean and Mickey normally adress NEEDS through the means of Free Agency and then build depth and "luxury" picks if you will through the Draft. If we can retain Jimmy and either BDP or Zach Strief, and splash a CB in Free Agency than we can afford to make a move on WR's
If not we'll need a CB in the 1st, Saftey/ Oline in the 2nd 3rd Round Oline or OLB and by that time there isn't much luxury left

Euphoria 02-23-2014 01:04 PM

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I don't know what team some of you have been following...

We don't draft on needs or wholes to fill. They have done that via Free Agency, mostly.

The draft they try and get the BPA and at 27th it looks very likely its going to be a WR. Yes there is going to be a lot of good ones but finding the one that is going to be a better fit with us is key. I don't see a CB in the draft where we will be picking who could keep up with the WR's.

Odell Could also be a return guy for us as well. I am not a fan of hometown hero's as well but he really looked good out there today.

Big WR... Mike Evans??? Liked him better than the FSU guy.

exile 02-23-2014 01:09 PM

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Brandin Cooks

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.6080...7&rs=1&pid=1.7

jeanpierre 02-23-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 579156)
We don't draft on needs or wholes to fill. They have done that via Free Agency, mostly.

Those Saints teams had cap room - 2014 Saints currently have under six million available and under the gun to sign their most popular player who's a free agent...

You're right that the Saints have wisely covered holes in free agency and used the draft to upgrade - as it should be...

But the overspent contracts on Grubbs, Lofton have put this team in a bad position...

hagan714 02-23-2014 03:47 PM

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Odell Beckham Jr. Ran a 4.31 that makes him more and more an SP type of player

think about it, the saints have been trying to fill that outside void since SP arrived. Henderson and Meacham were streakers only and never developed a total game.
Then you add the electric factor into it and the Bush type of factor that every time he takes the field. defenses must account for him, he has SP type of player in round 1 written all over him

my gut says this will be the saints pick.

Euphoria 02-23-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 579166)
Odell Beckham Jr. Ran a 4.31 that makes him more and more an SP type of player

think about it, the saints have been trying to fill that outside void since SP arrived. Henderson and Meacham were streakers only and never developed a total game.
Then you add the electric factor into it and the Bush type of factor that every time he takes the field. defenses must account for him, he has SP type of player in round 1 written all over him

my gut says this will be the saints pick.

I agree there are going to be 3-4 WR's there they would be awesome to have. Depending on the direction SP wants to go in... When Meacham was drafted it was a HUGE Surprise to EVERYONE. So all I am saying is don't be surprise this time around if we snag a WR here.

exile 02-23-2014 04:39 PM

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Donte Moncrief ran a 4.40. He should be a Saint.

Ashley 02-23-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 579134)
Oh yeah, its wouldn't be the first time Sean drafted a WR in the first. No one expected him to go WR at the time and he did.

This year there are a lot of good ones and one of these guys will be on the board when we select. I also think at that pick they will be the BPA from what I have seen at the combine so far.

He did do that so, lets see what he does on this yr's draft

Rugby Saint II 02-23-2014 05:47 PM

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I'm hoping for help in the secondary.

hagan714 02-23-2014 11:24 PM

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then again he may have ran himself into the top 25 and we do not get a shot at him.

Brandin Cooks looks like he would fit that role also.

Mike Evans 4.47 say what? dam

then you got mighty mouse

John Brown, Pittsburg State 5-10, 179, 4.34 looked great. PR and KR to boot.

some really nice small school players again this year

alleycat_126 02-23-2014 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 579153)
This draft class is so deep with quality mid to late round wr's its not funny. We need to address the defense mostly cb or s and a cover lb in the first three rounds. If this year has shown anyone is that a top offense will lose to a top defense most of the time.

BOOM!!! Defense first....

K Major 02-24-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 579206)
Mike Evans 4.47 say what? dam

+1. You saw it too? Evans along with Kelvin Benjamin are every bit of 6'5 maybe even 6'6/235+lbs and can run sub 4.5.

Freakish.

TheOak 02-24-2014 09:14 AM

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Official time for Mike Evans was 4.53.

That old man doing the unofficial times needs to be retired.

Manziel unofficial time 4.56s / official time 4.68s
Sammy Watkins unofficial time 4.34s / official time 4.43

How is it track events and the Olympics can post an official time in a matter of seconds, but the NFL takes hours.

Seems like the NFL is doing a fair job of picking whos stock should rise...

pumpkindriver 02-24-2014 11:25 PM

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What about Donte Moncrief, out of Ole Miss? If somehow he falls to the the 3rd round, I don't see how we could pass him up.


hagan714 02-25-2014 06:16 AM

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right here is a thread that gives a solid reason why the saints should consider trades. this is the type of draft a team with multi picks all over the board has a really excellent chance of upgrading the teams depth for when our 30 year olds move on and those in their last year of the contract.. It can addressing the cap issues right away also for the next 3 to 4 years.

there are some that did not make the combine also that will surprise a bunch of people at their pro days.

TheOak 02-25-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 579153)
This draft class is so deep with quality mid to late round wr's its not funny. We need to address the defense mostly cb or s and a cover lb in the first three rounds. If this year has shown anyone is that a top offense will lose to a top defense most of the time.

Dont forget how good our defense was in spite of injuries to players that will be on the field this year.

When we lost to the Panthers the second go-round it was due to a lack of points on the board, not a lack of defense. The same could be said for the Jets, Rams, and Seattle in the Divisional. In nearly all of those losses, Drew threw for only 1 TD.

I look at possible performance gain per draft pick. Is one d-back going to move you from the 4th best defense to the 1st best defense and is moving from 4th to first going to guarantee you more wins? 4th to first is a small jump in terms of rankings but a huge leap in terms of defensive talent.

The Bengals were 3rd, what did they do? Seattle did what they did in 2013 in large part due to their offense just didn't screw up and fall on their face as often as ours did.

K Major 02-25-2014 08:47 AM

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Our defense is 2, 3 players away from becoming dominant. Address the cornerback spot opposite Lewis, get another beast along side Jordan/Junior and add another safety for depth (Bush/KennyV) and we are contending for a Super Bowl spot.

Euphoria 02-25-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 579443)
Our defense is 2, 3 players away from becoming dominant. Address the cornerback spot opposite Lewis, get another beast along side Jordan/Junior and add another safety for depth (Bush/KennyV) and we are contending for a Super Bowl spot.

Yeah but that is 2-3 Number 1 picks away???

I think we are more like 5-6 players away from being the D we want to be. DE, DT, OLB, MLB, CB and a FS

We always need to be thinking upgrades.

hagan714 02-25-2014 04:30 PM

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if you really like a player and can make a move to get them you do it but you better be sure you like the risk to get that player. present state of the team means nothing. it the player you want. needs mean nothing. if it a wr so be it.

TheOak 02-26-2014 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 579507)
if you really like a player and can make a move to get them you do it but you better be sure you like the risk to get that player. present state of the team means nothing. it the player you want. needs mean nothing. if it a wr so be it.


I'll almost guarantee it won't be a RB.



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