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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz 6 years for 60 million It's going to get done whether Saints fans like it or not. I know one thing for certain, I'm going to be damn thrilled. I would be happy with that if ...

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Old 02-26-2014, 01:09 PM   #51
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by papz View Post
6 years for 60 million

It's going to get done whether Saints fans like it or not.

I know one thing for certain, I'm going to be damn thrilled.
I would be happy with that if it were back loaded and had a lower guaranteed money. First year cap impact should be around 5-6.5 mil then we could cut/restructure in the later years when the dead money would be less detrimental (just like W.Smith).
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:54 PM   #52
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

let him walk...
I don't care if he leads inTD...
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that may or may not pan out?

This can't be real life.
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard View Post
So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that may or may not pan out?

This can't be real life.
You couldn't be more on target. Graham is a TD machine and will get better each year. Trade him? Drop him? I don't get it.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:12 PM   #55
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by papz View Post
6 years for 60 million

It's going to get done whether Saints fans like it or not.

I know one thing for certain, I'm going to be damn thrilled.
With what he is asking I do not see it being anything less than a Gronk contract, E.g. 8 years to stretch it out. Gronk was 55m/ stretched out over 8 years with a 8m signing bonus with a first year cap hit of 5.5m.

Adding 5m and cutting two years off that model will hurt cap..
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard View Post
So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that may or may not pan out?

This can't be real life.
Well just to be fair they're also eliminating a 12 million cap hit along with him, or rather they're freeing up 12 million of cap space AND getting a couple draft picks.

So you have...

A-Jimmy at 12 million per season (although we know that number will come down)

--OR--

B-Two high draft picks, AND 12 million per season to spend on other free-agents.

An example of option B would be two 1st round picks AND OC Alex Mack AND another CB like Keenan Lewis.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:31 PM   #57
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

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Well just to be fair they're also eliminating a 12 million cap hit along with him, or rather they're freeing up 12 million of cap space AND getting a couple draft picks.

So you have...

A-Jimmy at 12 million per season (although we know that number will come down)

--OR--

B-Two high draft picks, AND 12 million per season to spend on other free-agents.

An example of option B would be two 1st round picks AND OC Alex Mack AND another CB like Keenan Lewis.
Those are two draft picks that may not pan out. There's also no guarantee we get Mack or another top flight CB. We'd have to compete with other teams for those players as well.

Yeah, I will definitely choose Graham.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:34 PM   #58
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard View Post
If we choose option B, we're getting two draft picks that, like I said, may not pan out. There's also no guarantee we get Mack or another top flight CB.

Yeah, I will definitely choose Graham.
We have had the #1 offense for many years before Jimmy, we will continue to have the #1 offense without him.

Jimmy may be priceless to many teams, but he is not priceless to us. We are successful because of the system. He is not worth 10mil per year to us, but I wont argue his market value is less than that.
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You couldn't be more on target. Graham is a TD machine and will get better each year. Trade him? Drop him? I don't get it.
We would love additional modalities such as the ultimate-blocking-machine and the ultimate-show-up-at-big-games-machine to complement the TD machine.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:39 PM   #60
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We would love additional modalities such as the ultimate-blocking-machine and the ultimate-show-up-at-big-games-machine to complement the TD machine.
Exactly. I wish I would've seen the machine in the playoffs. Or against New England. Or the Jets. Or Carolina. Etc..
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