First Signs of PT leaving

JHO_NOLA · 03-08-2014, 09:39 PM

@papz well said

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WhoDatFan26 · 03-08-2014, 11:57 PM

Looks guys its time we all faced reality:
1.)Lance Moore was set to make $5 Mill + as our #3 WR. Too much money for too little production.

2.) Darren Sproles gain less than half of what he gained 2 seasons ago.

3.) Pierre Thomas' YPC were like 3.7, which the much maligned Mark Ingrams was 4.9 and K.Robinsons 4.5(I believe).

4.) The fact that two of these players were undrafted players who were able to be productive within our system speaks volumes for both the system and the player personnel development. We consistently find gems(Galette, K. Stills, Robinson, Morgan) that other teams don't. We'll be fine and 12-4 next year. Relax.

hagan714 · 03-09-2014, 05:05 AM

i think the fact Darren is gone now grrr is an indicator that more than likely PT might have seen his odds improved in regards to possible remaining with saints.

enough adjectives an adverbs in the disclaimer?

I see PT signing an extension at lower cap numbers but more money up front and in pocket.

no way the saints will gamble on protection drew at this point. they already hung him out to dry last year with all the risk taking they did on the OL the past few years. if the do not i say trade drew and do not get him killed

This year the offense let us down for the first time. imagine what might have been if drew had that one or two extra seconds in the pocket on a few key plays in just those handful of games that could have changed everything down the stretch?

hand grenades and horse shoes i know but aint it the simple truth?

first have your best all around back help coach up the young pups
second see if the changes up front work
third then decide
it's that freaking simple folks.
For the love of god and all that is holy this is the grail of football wisdom.

TheOak · 03-09-2014, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

Remember younger means less experience.

Which can have a value unto its own.

Seattle rolls on a lot of youth and ignorance. Kapernick was in a Super Bowl before he realized he was in the NFL.

hagan714 · 03-09-2014, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Which can have a value unto its own.

Seattle rolls on a lot of youth and ignorance. Kapernick was in a Super Bowl before he realized he was in the NFL.

yeah but they have sold veteran RB back there to help them grow

TheOak · 03-09-2014, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

yeah but they have sold veteran RB back there to help them grow

Think about that for a second:
Brees
Evans
Colston

We are rock solid on veterans on our side of the ball. I would say more so than those other teams.

halloween 65 · 03-09-2014, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i think the fact Darren is gone now grrr is an indicator that more than likely PT might have seen his odds improved in regards to possible remaining with saints.

enough adjectives an adverbs in the disclaimer?

I see PT signing an extension at lower cap numbers but more money up front and in pocket.

no way the saints will gamble on protection drew at this point. they already hung him out to dry last year with all the risk taking they did on the OL the past few years. if the do not i say trade drew and do not get him killed

This year the offense let us down for the first time. imagine what might have been if drew had that one or two extra seconds in the pocket on a few key plays in just those handful of games that could have changed everything down the stretch?

hand grenades and horse shoes i know but aint it the simple truth?

first have your best all around back help coach up the young pups
second see if the changes up front work
third then decide
it's that freaking simple folks.
For the love of god and all that is holy this is the grail of football wisdom.

If I were a betting man, which I'm not, but of coare it's a gamble. Open holes up for P.T. I bet he runs as well as Ingram and Robinson, but I would still like a power back for compliments to replace Sproles. We run when we want to run, definatly takes pressure of of Brees with young studs at C and RT.

hagan714 · 03-09-2014, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Think about that for a second:
Brees
Evans
Colston

We are rock solid on veterans on our side of the ball. I would say more so than those other teams.

not one of them is a RB. not one of these people pick up a blitz for drew. that is the point.

TheOak · 03-10-2014, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

not one of them is a RB. not one of these people pick up a blitz for drew. that is the point.

Your vesting way to heavily in veteran teaching. That's why there are RB coaches, something's are also instinct. PT has been with the Saints since 2007 and has always been our best RB at a few things, most notably blocking and screens. He has yet to pass that torch on.

Leadership is not as big of a deal or solution as it's portrayed. If it was Meachem and PT would have taught Jimmy Graham how to block by now don't ya think?

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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Looks guys its time we all faced reality: 1.)Lance Moore was set to make $5 Mill + as our #3 WR. Too much money for too little production. 2.) Darren Sproles gain less than half of what he gained 2 seasons ago. 3.) Pierre Thomas' YPC were like 3.7, which the much maligned Mark Ingrams was 4.9 and K.Robinsons 4.5(I believe). 4.) The fact that two of these players were undrafted players who were able to be productive within our system speaks volumes for both the system and the player personnel development. We consistently find gems(Galette, K. Stills, Robinson, Morgan) that other teams don't. We'll be fine and 12-4 next year. Relax. Danno likes this.
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03-09-2014, 05:05 AM	#33
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: First Signs of PT leaving i think the fact Darren is gone now grrr is an indicator that more than likely PT might have seen his odds improved in regards to possible remaining with saints. enough adjectives an adverbs in the disclaimer? I see PT signing an extension at lower cap numbers but more money up front and in pocket. no way the saints will gamble on protection drew at this point. they already hung him out to dry last year with all the risk taking they did on the OL the past few years. if the do not i say trade drew and do not get him killed This year the offense let us down for the first time. imagine what might have been if drew had that one or two extra seconds in the pocket on a few key plays in just those handful of games that could have changed everything down the stretch? hand grenades and horse shoes i know but aint it the simple truth? first have your best all around back help coach up the young pups second see if the changes up front work third then decide it's that freaking simple folks. For the love of god and all that is holy this is the grail of football wisdom. halloween 65 and brees84 like this.
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03-09-2014, 05:28 AM	#34
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by NOLA54 Remember younger means less experience. Which can have a value unto its own. Seattle rolls on a lot of youth and ignorance. Kapernick was in a Super Bowl before he realized he was in the NFL. Danno likes this.

03-09-2014, 05:40 AM	#35
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by TheOak Which can have a value unto its own. Seattle rolls on a lot of youth and ignorance. Kapernick was in a Super Bowl before he realized he was in the NFL. yeah but they have sold veteran RB back there to help them grow

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03-09-2014, 05:44 AM	#36
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by hagan714 yeah but they have sold veteran RB back there to help them grow Think about that for a second: Brees Evans Colston We are rock solid on veterans on our side of the ball. I would say more so than those other teams.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by hagan714 i think the fact Darren is gone now grrr is an indicator that more than likely PT might have seen his odds improved in regards to possible remaining with saints. enough adjectives an adverbs in the disclaimer? I see PT signing an extension at lower cap numbers but more money up front and in pocket. no way the saints will gamble on protection drew at this point. they already hung him out to dry last year with all the risk taking they did on the OL the past few years. if the do not i say trade drew and do not get him killed This year the offense let us down for the first time. imagine what might have been if drew had that one or two extra seconds in the pocket on a few key plays in just those handful of games that could have changed everything down the stretch? hand grenades and horse shoes i know but aint it the simple truth? first have your best all around back help coach up the young pups second see if the changes up front work third then decide it's that freaking simple folks. For the love of god and all that is holy this is the grail of football wisdom. If I were a betting man, which I'm not, but of coare it's a gamble. Open holes up for P.T. I bet he runs as well as Ingram and Robinson, but I would still like a power back for compliments to replace Sproles. We run when we want to run, definatly takes pressure of of Brees with young studs at C and RT.

03-09-2014, 10:50 PM	#38
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by TheOak Think about that for a second: Brees Evans Colston We are rock solid on veterans on our side of the ball. I would say more so than those other teams. not one of them is a RB. not one of these people pick up a blitz for drew. that is the point.

03-10-2014, 04:10 AM	#39
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: First Signs of PT leaving Originally Posted by hagan714 not one of them is a RB. not one of these people pick up a blitz for drew. that is the point. Your vesting way to heavily in veteran teaching. That's why there are RB coaches, something's are also instinct. PT has been with the Saints since 2007 and has always been our best RB at a few things, most notably blocking and screens. He has yet to pass that torch on. Leadership is not as big of a deal or solution as it's portrayed. If it was Meachem and PT would have taught Jimmy Graham how to block by now don't ya think?

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