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triman 03-11-2014 07:51 AM

Sproles not released yet
 
Darren Sproles has not been released yet. Schefter says lots of teams interested Saints may get a pick in last minute trade.

stickman 03-11-2014 08:36 AM

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Let's hope that comes true.

ChrisXVI 03-11-2014 08:59 AM

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I'd be thrilled to get something in return. Even a 7th round pick would be awesome. Please someone pull the trigger!

TheOak 03-11-2014 09:13 AM

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A trade is highly unlikely.

Why would a team give up a draft pick to take on 3.5m in cap when they can wait until tomorrow and get him for 3.5m in cap or lower and no draft pick.

Sproles is a specialty player and 3.5m is high for that.

Yes, there could be a team desperate enough to do it but would Sproles want to go there?

lee909 03-11-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581890)
A trade is highly unlikely.

Why would a team give up a draft pick to take on 3.5m in cap when they can wait until tomorrow and get him for 3.5m in cap or lower and no draft pick.

Sproles is a specialty player and 3.5m is high for that.

Yes, there could be a team desperate enough to do it but would Sproles want to go there?

I could see a team that wants him that wouldn't get him in FA giving up a late pick.

TheOak 03-11-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 581891)
I could see a team that wants him that wouldn't get him in FA giving up a late pick.

Explain "wouldn't get him in FA"?

If they want him that bad... Why haven't they contacted the Saints? He has been up for trade since last Friday I do believe.

If he was worth 3.5m + a Draft pick, and I wanted him that badly, I would have snatched him in a trade Friday night.

lee909 03-11-2014 09:31 AM

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Not sure if a team will.
My thoughts are a team like tge jags, bills etc that will not get him if he is released may give up a late pick to secure him. Who knows if Loomis has spoken to anyone.Could be teams leaving the front office to stew in tbe hopes of getting him for a 6/7th rather than a 5/6th.

TheOak 03-11-2014 09:33 AM

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Anything is certainly possible but 3.5m+a draft pick is more than he is worth... We are not keeping him at just 3.5m, and that was probably the hardest decision the front office has made so far this off season.

exile 03-11-2014 09:35 AM

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I must be the only Saints fan on Earth, or maybe in the entire world, that wants Sproles back. He still has wheels. :(

ProMallNinja 03-11-2014 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581892)
Explain "wouldn't get him in FA"?

If they want him that bad... Why haven't they contacted the Saints? He has been up for trade since last Friday I do believe.

If he was worth 3.5m + a Draft pick, and I wanted him that badly, I would have snatched him in a trade Friday night.

Sooo....you think that no one has contacted the Saints about Sproles? I find that highly unlikely considering that he has been told that he will no longer be on the team and has yet to be officially cut. I feel like if there were absolutely no trade interest he would have been dropped by now.

lee909 03-11-2014 09:38 AM

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Id love him here but that's a lot of cap for a declining player that isnt a alround back. Teams have figured out the the offense and when Sproles is receiving out yhe backfield teams are on him straoght away.The less said about his returning last year the better tjough yhats on blocking too.

ProMallNinja 03-11-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 581897)
Id love him here but that's a lot of cap for a declining player that isnt a alround back. Teams have figured out the the offense and when Sproles is receiving out yhe backfield teams are on him straoght away.The less said about his returning last year the better tjough yhats on blocking too.

I think PT is just as effective in the screen game as Sproles while also being a duel threat to run the ball when in... I love watching Sproles play, but I don't think we'll miss him as much as some fans might think. I hope that Cadet gets his $#!@ together and maybe takes over has our Sproles-type RB. That kid has a ton of potential.

lee909 03-11-2014 09:48 AM

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I agree.
Sproles is more likely to rip off a 40+ yard run than PT but teams see Sproles come in and set up knowing whats coming, whereas they have to defend both run and screen plays for PT.

TheOak 03-11-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 581896)
Sooo....you think that no one has contacted the Saints about Sproles? I find that highly unlikely considering that he has been told that he will no longer be on the team and has yet to be officially cut. I feel like if there were absolutely no trade interest he would have been dropped by now.


If the FO had an offer do you think he would still be on the market?

As high profile as this is, we would have heard something.

NonieT 03-11-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 581895)
I must be the only Saints fan on Earth, or maybe in the entire world, that wants Sproles back. He still has wheels. :(

You're not the only one!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheOak 03-11-2014 10:03 AM

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No one said anything about not wanting him. I'd love to have him back but my wants and what the situation is seem to be a little different.

NonieT 03-11-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581906)
If the FO had an offer do you think he would still be on the market?

As high profile as this is, we would have heard something.

Think so? Not so sure about that!

exile 03-11-2014 10:08 AM

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Redskins showing some interest?

Redskins | Interested in Darren Sproles - NFL Hot off the Wire

ProMallNinja 03-11-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581906)
If the FO had an offer do you think he would still be on the market?

As high profile as this is, we would have heard something.

The question goes both ways....if there was no interest do you think he would still be on the roster? It just seems unlikely to me that there's no chance in hell for a trade, and we've told this guy we don't want him but haven't released him yet.... I think that the situation suggests at least some trade interest, and that alone suggests that some team out there is contemplating pulling the trigger...

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TheOak 03-11-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 581913)
The question goes both ways....if there was no interest do you think he would still be on the roster?

Yes because there is always 'hope'.

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 581913)
It just seems unlikely to me that there's no chance in hell for a trade, and we've told this guy we don't want him but haven't released him yet.... I think that the situation suggests at least some trade interest, and that alone suggests that some team out there is contemplating pulling the trigger...

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No where did i say "no chance in hell", I said "highly unlikely" Again, there is hope.

Why are we hanging on to him till 4pm E? Because Loomis is hoping someone calls back for a trade. Ill put good money that when the Saints put it out that Sproles was up for trade then got at least 14 calls inquiring.

He is still up for trade. If a team made an offer to Loomis that was acceptable, why is he still a Saint right now?

TheOak 03-11-2014 11:24 AM

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exile 03-11-2014 11:33 AM

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If he's free? Gulp. Keep him!

voodooido 03-11-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581890)
A trade is highly unlikely.

Why would a team give up a draft pick to take on 3.5m in cap when they can wait until tomorrow and get him for 3.5m in cap or lower and no draft pick.

Sproles is a specialty player and 3.5m is high for that.

Yes, there could be a team desperate enough to do it but would Sproles want to go there?

Not as unlikely as you think. Some teams that may show intrest in a trade may have no chance getting him in FA. Think of this, The Browns may be willing to give up a 4th because they are in need of a rb. Would Sproles sign there on his own???? Heck no!

brees84 03-11-2014 01:45 PM

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10 teams interested? That's no surprise. For the right price he is still great player.

TheOak 03-11-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 581951)
Not as unlikely as you think. Some teams that may show intrest in a trade may have no chance getting him in FA. Think of this, The Browns may be willing to give up a 4th because they are in need of a rb. Would Sproles sign there on his own???? Heck no!

He wouldn't be up for trade if the browns offered the Saints a 4th.

QBREES9 03-11-2014 03:16 PM

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Don't give him away.

ScottF 03-11-2014 04:02 PM

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A lot of interest, but my guess the stumbling block is inheriting the contract. Saints are trying not to lose the dead money, even though it's 'only'' 750,000

lee909 03-11-2014 04:20 PM

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If they Jags have robbed the 49ers for a 6th rounder for Blaine Gabbart how has nobody offered the same for Sproles

ProMallNinja 03-11-2014 06:28 PM

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TheOak 03-11-2014 06:30 PM

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@LarryHolder: RT @AdamSchefter: Saints still haven't released RB Darren Sproles and now plan to trade him due to heavy interest, per ESPN source. Not being released, though

NonieT 03-11-2014 06:30 PM

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Per shefter

@AdamSchefter: Saints still haven’t released RB Darren Sproles and now plan to trade him due to heavy interest, per ESPN source. Not being released, though

exile 03-11-2014 06:30 PM

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I hear it's coming. Marshall Faulk just ripped the Saints about it on NFLN. I kind of agree with him.

NonieT 03-11-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 582136)
I hear it's coming. Marshall Faulk just ripped the Saints about on NFLN. I kind of agree with him.

What did he say?

TheOak 03-11-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 581987)
A lot of interest, but my guess the stumbling block is inheriting the contract. Saints are trying not to lose the dead money, even though it's 'only'' 750,000


That $750k is dead money for the Saints whether we trade him or release him.

exile 03-11-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 582137)
What did he say?


Something like "you could have held onto him, he was yours already." In a perturbed voice.

NonieT 03-11-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 582141)
Something like "you could have held onto him, he was yours already." In a perturbed voice.

Maybe it's Sproles who wants to be traded.

exile 03-11-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 582144)
Maybe it's Sproles who wants to be traded.


Anything is possible. Now Ian Rappapordee says the Saints WILL trade him but may take their time.

ScottF 03-11-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 582138)
That $750k is dead money for the Saints whether we trade him or release him.

why?

nicebush25 03-11-2014 06:51 PM

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We got a 4th rd pick for Ivory, I think thats the best we can hope for with sproles

SASaintsfan 03-11-2014 06:57 PM

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With this deep draft I would be more than happy with a 4th for a player we were probably going to release.


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