saintswhodi

No problem Kool but as you and I both know, if Loomis is here, free agency will be a frugal experience once again, leaving drafting an impact player our only option. Now if Loomis is gone, I think we can be very active in free agency and will have to be dependent on draft position. And with Haz\'s contract, I am not sure anything will get him fired except losing out.

JKool

Hmmm, I\'ll have to think about that one.

However, this year, Loomis tried to distance himself from Haz after the start of the season started to look bad. The only reason to do this is that he felt his job might be on the line with Haz\'s. So, perhaps he realizes that he must do his job better too - of course, that may be wishful thinking. It would be good to hear evidence one way or the other, if anyone has some?

Will Loomis stay unless we lose out? What say you B&G?

saintswhodi

I am very interested to see if that would be the case also.

mutineer10

Well, Loomis did play some role in Benson\'s recent wedding. Dunno if that means he\'ll keep the job, but Benson\'s probably not above a little brown-nosing. The brief snippets of news I read regarding Loomis vs. Haslett (on nola.com I think, but I can\'t find them now) didn\'t leave me with the impression that Haz was even invited to said wedding.

If that\'s the case, how funny would it be if Haz did turn this thing around? Benson might\'ve married him, instead!

Danno

I didn\'t say they were the GB Packers O-line, I said they played better.
I watched the game and it looked to me like they played much better, especially versus the run. Maybe not so much versus the pass, but I did see some holes opening up for Deuce. Its something I hadn\'t seen in 8 games. Compared to the 1st 8 games I belive they played better.
Brooks was under pressure, but mostly from blitzing. Its up to the RB, FB, and the QB to handle that.

RDOX

GOD!! I hope not. I blame LoomBoom for the faults of the Saints. With his \"guidance\" we have such notables as \"two firsts\" Sullivan, Jon Stinchcomb, and Cie Grant. But, we are \"fast\" and we have tons of \"cap room.\" We can\'t play football, and we don\'t know how to run a Professional Football Franchise, but we\'re \"Fast.\" We need someone like Scott Pioli(sp) from New England that will put a noose around the neck of any head coach hired. Also, he needs to hire the Coordinators, not Benson. From Benson we got Mike(Carl Smith in Disguise) McCarthy, and Rick (Rant and Rave down the sideline) Venturi.

I pine for the days of Jim Finks and Jim Mora. We coulda been something had Finks stayed alive. :weepy:

fact-o-bake

1. The O-line played better
2. WR\'s caught the ball
3. When they stacked the line we passed
4. When the played base, we ran
5. Deuce looks almost 100%
6. When the D needed a stop, they got one.
7. Karney looks awesome
8. McKenzie plays with a passion I haven\'t seen here in years.
9. The whole team didn\'t quit like I predicted they would.
10. Haz was getting in some faces, and they responded.
11. Haz/Venturi will still be fired regardless.
Danno, I agree with you on 2-9.
I didn\'t see 10, but that\'s great if he got fired up.
I pray for 11.
And I\'ll give you 1. Instead of a D, they get a D+

fact-o-bake

I\'m still learning to use quotes.
JKool, it seems as if you and Whodi hashed this out pretty well, I don\'t want to open another can, but I just want to say that the analogies weren\'t supposed to be cut and dry opptimist/pessimist comparisons or outlooks at all. They are simply used to identify emotions and feelings about the precarious business of being a Saints fan. Neither optimistcally or pessimistically but rather realistically.

JKool

FOB,

I like it. I was pretty sure that was what everyone was getting at, but sometimes it is hard to tell.

Cheers.

JKool

PS - The optimism/pessimism thing was just something I had some pent up rage about, so I want to thank you (FOB) and Whodi for engaging in an intelligent discussion of it.