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WhoDat!656 03-15-2014 01:43 PM

Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
You get three guesses and the first 2 don't count for who made #1!

The Saints Five Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era

FinSaint 03-15-2014 01:59 PM

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I remember Chamberlain looked so fast during the initial stages of the first preseason after he had signed with the Saints. Then he had that horrible injury going into the second quarter of the first preseason game and was a non-factor after that during his whole Saints' tenure.

I was very excited about his signing back in the day - mainly because he played as a safety in college (=good pass defense) - but unfortunately it wasn't to be.

Also, I don't agree with the assessment of Franklin. He played much better out of his natural position than people have given him credit for.

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Lord_Saint83 03-15-2014 02:16 PM

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No surprise at number one. The atm known as...Well i cant say his cause if i do the universe will destroy itself. I thought Fred Thomas was horrible till he showed up.

ChrisXVI 03-15-2014 02:16 PM

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Pretty damn accurate. Alex Brown sucked too.

papz 03-15-2014 02:32 PM

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If that's the list, then we've done a good job. None were really big time financial investments.

Schmohams 03-15-2014 03:37 PM

Re: Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
Saints do a good job finding the right fit. There have been much worse signings. ie Albert Haynesworth, Nnamdi Asomugha, and Matt Flynn

Jack Vegas 03-15-2014 04:30 PM

Re: Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
Without reading my guesses are:

Jason David
Olin Kreutz
Brian Simmons
Olindo Mare
.....?

Don't know

After looking at the list I really disagree with Aubrayo Franklin on there. He was actually solid that year. Sedrick Ellis was the one who sucked out loud. Rogers was kind of a waste though.

Still say Simmons should be on the list. Was brought in to start at middle linebacker, but he couldn't even beat out Simoneau. Then was moved to the weak side, where he couldn't beat out Shanle. When both Simoneau and Shanle are better than you, you stink.

NoZone504 03-15-2014 04:36 PM

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Jason David....Olin....that safety from Cincinnati Kk...

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2014 01:50 PM

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Jason David.........smirk.:roll:

TheOak 03-16-2014 03:07 PM

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WTF is that list? Injuries and retirement are not failures in signing FAs, it's life.

SapperSaint 03-16-2014 07:53 PM

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I still have night terrors about Jason David. Mare should have been in there somewhere.


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jeanpierre 03-16-2014 10:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 583722)
WTF is that list? Injuries and retirement are not failures in signing FAs, it's life.


Jason David.

Not so much the financial commitment, but the belief that he could cover anyone...

Totally agree about Chamberlain, that was an unfortunate injury to a surging, peaking linebacker...

Disagree with article about Aubrayo Franklin as a bad player; the mistake was we were not yet in a 34 which Franklin was better suited so the FO failed there...

When you balance Brees against what the FO has done in Free Agency, it's no contest; but they haven't done well in FA overall...

Keenan Lewis signing doesn't get the fanfare, but that was probably as impressive a signing the Saints have had save Brees...

After the Grubbs signing, an overpay for a glorified secondary tier lineman, I just hope with Byrd that we're due - but those numbers concern me...

Ben Watson though has been a good depth signing; DLP worked out fair enough...

Bringing back Meachem was solid...

The signing of Inside Linebackers Lofton and Hawthorne has been underwhelming with team unfavorable contracts; though I disagree with PFF that Hawthorne has played completely poorly; but those positions need upgrading...

Beastmode 03-16-2014 11:07 PM

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I will say that none of those guys were locker room issues. Have to hand it to Payton in that dept. I honestly can't think of one player under him who has caused grief for the team and fans which is almost impossible to do in the NFL.

FinSaint 03-17-2014 03:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 583771)
I will say that none of those guys were locker room issues. Have to hand it to Payton in that dept. I honestly can't think of one player under him who has caused grief for the team and fans which is almost impossible to do in the NFL.

Well, if you count GW a FA signing then there you have bucket-loads of grief for the team, fans and the city.

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Saintswrath 03-17-2014 01:23 PM

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Mentioning the name Jason D... D.. avid is grounds for banning!!!

Luda34 03-17-2014 10:39 PM

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Jason David no surpise

SmashMouth 03-18-2014 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 583923)
Mentioning the name Jason D... D.. avid is grounds for banning!!!

Just saying he sucked got me banned at an unnamed site...

Budsdrinker 03-18-2014 11:15 AM

Re: Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
[QUOTE=Jack Vegas;583594]Without reading my guesses are:

Jason David
Olin Kreutz
Brian Simmons
Olindo Mare
.....?

Don't know

After looking at the list I really disagree with Aubrayo Franklin on there. He was actually solid that year. Sedrick Ellis was the one who sucked out loud. Rogers was kind of a waste though.

Ellis was a draft pick not FA signing and he was decent his first 3 years

Vrillon82 03-18-2014 11:26 AM

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many signings under Gary Gibbs were bad, Kaesviharn was down right awful.

But the Saints were so bad on defense in 2007 and 08 due to them signing 3rd string guys and putting them as starter. Part reason why some guys on defense that was better managed to hang around for so long afterward, they looked better due to lack of competition and remained on a roster afterward, when in truth they were not starting material. Reason why Rob Ryan when he came in, their no Vilma, Will Smith, and such on the field, Harper was there, but hes gone thank goodness, that was the weak link in the defense.

Cruize 03-18-2014 04:27 PM

Re: Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 583722)
WTF is that list? Injuries and retirement are not failures in signing FAs, it's life.

It doesn't work it's bad. It doesn't produce it's bad. Money thrown away is bad. Right/Wrong. Good/Bad. No excuses. That's life.

TheOak 03-18-2014 04:33 PM

Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 584171)
It doesn't work it's bad. It doesn't produce it's bad. Money thrown away is bad. Right/Wrong. Good/Bad. No excuses. That's life.


Instances of force majeure hold zero accountability.

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QBREES9 03-18-2014 07:02 PM

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Jason David

Utah_Saint 03-18-2014 07:09 PM

Re: Top 5 Worst Free Agent Signings in the Sean Payton Era
 
There have been a few but if you limit it to top five I'd rank them like this.

1) Jason David
2) Jason David
3) Jason David
4) Olin Kreutz
5) Jason David


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