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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right?? We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did ...

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Old 03-25-2014, 09:39 AM   #21
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

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Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right??
We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them.
It doesn't include players cut, only free agents that sign with another team.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:41 AM   #22
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

Originally Posted by |Mitch| View Post
Well it is based on how much you lose and pick up in free agency, value wise...

When have the Falcons ever been smart in the offseason?
When have the Falcons ever been smart in the regular season?
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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint View Post
Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right??
We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them.
It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation.

If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go...

Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.

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Old 03-25-2014, 11:49 AM   #24
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It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation.

If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go...

Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.

The value is also based on past honors...

For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would...

I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best...

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The value is also based on past honors...

For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would...

I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best...
Not entirely true. While New England would get some value based on the formula, if Brady cant throw 30 yards and doesn't play much that will weigh negatively on the formula and knock it out of the top 32. Keep in mind it also based on contract value and if Brady cant throw 30 yards the LA Cosmonauts are not going to sign him to a big contract. I also doubt he passes a physical if he cant throw 30 yards.

What I do not think people realize is that no players that are cut or traded qualify. If has to be a player that went into free agency and was picked up by another team. They are also not considering that if say Jimmy Graham walked this season we would get nothing because the Byrd signing off-set that loss of value.

We are on the giving end of some Compensatory picks however, Lewis earned Pittsburgh one, Byrd will earn Buffalo one.

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It feels like this every year:

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Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.
I'm fine with no comp picks. I'd much prefer re-signing our key free agents and signing players who we know can contribute than sitting back in free agency to try and receive comp picks. The draft is a crap shoot and majority of those players aren't going to come right in and contribute like our free agent signings.
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So we'll get one for Sproles next year.
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So we'll get one for Sproles next year.
No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents.
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No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents.
...errrrr, traded for a fifth rounder. Close enough.
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