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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets each will receive four compensatory picks in this year's draft for free agents they lost in 2013. Baltimore gets spots in the third, fourth and fifth rounds, with two choices in Round 4. ...

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Old 03-24-2014, 08:58 PM   #1
 
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Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

The Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets each will receive four compensatory picks in this year's draft for free agents they lost in 2013.

Baltimore gets spots in the third, fourth and fifth rounds, with two choices in Round 4. Those slots are 99th, 134th, 138th and 175th.

Among the free agents the Ravens lost after winning the 2012 NFL title were Ed Reed, Dannell Ellerbe, Paul Kruger and Cary Williams, all key defensive players.
The Jets will get slots 139, 209, 210 and 213: a fourth-rounder and three sixth-rounders. They lost free agents Dustin Keller, Matt Slauson, Yeremiah Bell, Mike DeVito, Shonn Greene and LaRon Landry.

The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four. The compensatory choices can't be traded.

Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Pittsburgh and St. Louis each received three compensatory picks. Cincinnati, Green Bay and Detroit got two apiece, while New England, San Francisco and the New York Giants were give one each.

In all, 32 choices were awarded for the draft, which begins May 8.

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Old 03-24-2014, 09:35 PM   #2
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

Damn. I'd like to have a couple.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:52 PM   #3
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

Baltimore gets spots in the third, fourth and fifth rounds, with two choices in Round 4

BECAUSE

Ed Reed, Dannell Ellerbe, Paul Kruger and Cary Williams, all key defensive players.

ok i do not see it. it is not like these guys lit up the nlf last year.

this is the one of the greatest mysteries in the NFL comp picks.

I starting to wonder if it is better now a days to try play comp pick lottery than it is to do a trade.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:32 PM   #4
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

From what I've been reading, if your team is getting a lot of comp picks each year then they're probably not managing their free agents well.

I'm not going to name any particular teams so as not to embarrass their fans...

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Old 03-25-2014, 12:29 AM   #5
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From what I've been reading, if your team is getting a lot of comp picks each year then they're probably not managing their free agents well.

I'm not going to name any particular teams so as not to embarrass their fans...

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Well it is based on how much you lose and pick up in free agency, value wise...

When have the Falcons ever been smart in the offseason?
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

Hence the problem is the subjective component of the "value" of the player lost...

Ed Reed is a shell of his former self; and in the explanation for determining net gain/loss none of the new free agent signatories by the Ravens were mentioned, accounted, including Elvis Dumervil...

Baltimore has been awarded more picks in the compensatory picks history; which begs the question - do they have some insight that no other team has?!?

Another curiousity, Dallas received a 7round pick for Kenyon Coleman; the same player who did not play a down for the Saints and is now retired...

Paul Kruger was considered Baltimore's biggest loss and such was presumably awarded a 3round pick for said player - I bring this up because Pittsburgh (whom I have no love for) was probably awarded a fifth for the loss of Keenan Lewis; so I ask, who was the better player and biggest loss to their team last season?!?

Rare Moment Coming: I'd side with Steelers fans on this one, even if I wasn't a Saints fan...

Yet the Steelers got a 3 rounder for some guy playing in Miami?!?

Ravens (4 picks): Round Three (99), Round Four (134), Round Four (138), Round Five (175).

Yet the Ravens signed Chris Canty, Elvis Dumervil, James Ihedigbo, Michael Huff, Marcus Spears and Joe Flacco (and yes, you should count free agents that were already with your team as they were free agents)...

Jets (4 picks): Round Four (137), Round Six (209), Round Six (210), Round Six (213).

Now I mentioned Ed Reed earlier; if the NFL considered him such a valuable player and loss for the Ravens, why was he not factored in the equation for the Jets in the net gain/loss scenario?!? He sucked it for the Texans because he got his pay day and when cut and signed by the Jets he turned in a veteran, albeit physically limited performance; so the Texans take the hit, but not the J-E-T-S?!?

Steelers (3 picks): Round Three (97), Round Five (173), Round Six (215).

Mike Wallace and Keenan Lewis were the big losses here; presumably, the 97th pick was for Wallace and the 173rd pick was for Lewis; again, who would you assess was the bigger loss for the Steelers after Emanuel Lewis emerged for the Steelers and yet their defense became ordinary with Keenan Lewis' departure...

My problem with this system is two-fold; one, who are the bone-in-nose Madison Avenue witch doctors and what set of bone dice are they rolling behind the NFL's Emerald curtain that Baltimore is awarded so many compensatory picks each year?!?

Second, should an NFL team be awarded draft picks for allowing free agents, if in fact, they are so good?!? In the Salary Cap ere, shouldn't teams be "encouraged" to retain those players?!?

If Paul Kruger was such a good player, why did Ozzie Newsome not pay? And If Oz felt the value wasn't there for the player, why should the NFL feel different and award a third round pick?!?
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The whole things stupidity.
The Saints signed Lewis and two players that didnt play a down yet lost Ellis and Bushrod.

No team shpuld be getting the amount of picks the Ravens get just because they do not pay there FA enough to stay.
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Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

(NOT) a big surprise.

Have the Saints EVER got a compensatory pick since the system went into effect? I sure don't remember one.

Although I also don't remember the league giving us a lot more than two middle fingers since the reign of Emperor Goodell began...
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I wouldn't expect any. We always plug holes in free-agency and Mickey has a knack for keeping good players in the Black and Gold.
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We lost Bushrod and Ellis and Signed Harolson and Lewis... Its a wash.... No compensation needed.
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