New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   The Advocate: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss (https://blackandgold.com/saints/65119-sean-payton-darren-sproles-can-t-replaced-but-travaris-cadet-others-can.html)

SmashMouth 03-26-2014 04:28 PM

Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
1 Attachment(s)
Saints coach Sean Payton speaks frankly about how it’s not really possible to substitute what his team lost when it traded running back Darren Sproles to the Philadelphia Eagles.

“I don’t think you ever replace a skill set like Darren’s,” Payton said to media at the annual NFL owners meeting in Orlando on Wednesday. “It’s unique, and it’s different really than our league has seen in a while with a player of his stature.”

But, in reserve running back Travaris Cadet, the Saints have a player on their roster who — while not nearly as proven as Sproles — shares some qualities with the man who led New Orleans in all-purpose yards each of the three seasons he was there, Payton added.
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/ph...bdfd9fd541.jpg
And he’ll have plenty of help from the remaining members of his position group: Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson and Pierre Thomas.

“He’s a guy that can run the routes (Sproles) did,” Payton said of Cadet. “He is a utility player that has gotten better at the core skill set of just being a runner but is very comfortable when it comes to being a receiver out the backfield.”

Few will argue with Payton that he shipped off a valuable commodity in Sproles, who the Eagles acquired for a fifth-round pick earlier in March. Among his many feats, Sproles set an NFL record for all-purpose yards (2,696) in 2011 and scored 24 touchdowns in 48 games for the Saints.

But Payton knows there are three reasons not to fret about not having Sproles on the roster. First, the Saints still have Robinson and Ingram, who especially showed how dangerous they can be on the ground in a wildcard win last season at Philadelphia in which the Saints racked up 185 yards, the second-most in franchise history for a postseason contest.

Then, there is the eight-year veteran Thomas, who as the Saints' leading rusher and led the NFL in catches with 77.

“We’ve carried and had quite a bit of depth at that position,” Payton said. “We’ve always felt it’s important.”

read more

dizzle88 03-26-2014 05:03 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Cadet has a massive fumbling issue though

he fumbled like 4 times in the preseason alone

rezburna 03-26-2014 05:09 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 585534)
Cadet has a massive fumbling issue though

he fumbled like 4 times in the preseason alone

Word.

WhoDat!656 03-26-2014 05:13 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 585534)
Cadet has a massive fumbling issue though

he fumbled like 4 times in the preseason alone

Which is why I would rather the Saints had cut him than any of the other RBs.

Danno 03-26-2014 05:24 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 585534)
Cadet has a massive fumbling issue though

he fumbled like 4 times in the preseason alone

It was actually 1 lost fumble, same number as Robinson.

dizzle88 03-26-2014 05:29 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 585539)
It was actually 1 lost fumble, same number as Robinson.

1 lost fumble, but quite a few that someone recovered which is still an issue

rezburna 03-26-2014 05:38 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
1st rounder for CJ Spiller.

Danno 03-26-2014 05:42 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 585542)
1 lost fumble, but quite a few that someone recovered which is still an issue

Actually 2 fumbles and 1 lost, same as Khiry Robinson.

Crusader 03-26-2014 06:02 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
And Cadet just might be the reason why the staff was willing to ship Sproles. They probably know something we don't.

Rugby Saint II 03-26-2014 06:15 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Cadet needs to establish himself in TC. Sproles was a business decision......and nothing more.

K Major 03-26-2014 07:50 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 585552)
Cadet needs to establish himself in TC. Sproles was a business decision......and nothing more.

+1 and no doubt.

halloween 65 03-27-2014 06:00 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
I haven't seen Cadet really do anything, 3 years and counting. I hope Payton is throwing a smokescreen to pick up a back in the draft.

lee909 03-27-2014 06:47 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Bit harsh to judge him on three years non production when he only made the team two years ago. Year one he was the 5th back on the depth chart and the same last year.

His kick returning isnt bad
He averages 26.5 yards per attempt and out of 35 returns 21 have been 20 yards plus. The blocking has been the issues on returns imo, too many holds happening when a big play gets made.

TheOak 03-27-2014 06:54 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Same people that say preseason games are meaningless reference preseason games when discussing a players skills.

Can we get a little consistency around here? LOL

It was a 4th string defense that caused the fumbles and he will not be facing a 4th string defense in regular season games.. how's that?:saintsfan:

halloween 65 03-27-2014 10:20 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 585612)
Bit harsh to judge him on three years non production when he only made the team two years ago. Year one he was the 5th back on the depth chart and the same last year.

His kick returning isnt bad
He averages 26.5 yards per attempt and out of 35 returns 21 have been 20 yards plus. The blocking has been the issues on returns imo, too many holds happening when a big play gets made.

My mistake 2 years going into the 3rd, but he still has not showed me he isn't eaisily replaced by a back than can contibute more to the team than the 5th back, I guess with Sproles gone he moved up a spot by default.

triman 03-28-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Cadet will get his chance. I would love to see Saints draft Charles Sims RB WVU he reminds a lot of Matt Forte. All purpose athlete good hands ,inside and out side runner ,excellent pass blocker . I would love to see.what Payton could do.with kid.

lsusaint912 03-28-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Look if payton is so convinced cadet can help.. Why wasent he in there more.. This is a fn joke if you think cadet could even fill a little roll.. Say what u want but he hasent been productive enough... We need another reggie bush/darren sproles if not we will be screwed cause honestly we have done nothing but get alot worse on offense.. In the draft i hope we go wr/returner.. speed back.. Then a corner i belive we have no 2nd corner but we need some weapons on offense

lsusaint912 03-28-2014 10:01 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
With saying that our defense should be hell 1 or 2 ranked, but sproles open so many holes we need a replacement.. Sorry guys cadets not it

Boutte 03-29-2014 07:04 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsusaint912 (Post 585926)
With saying that our defense should be hell 1 or 2 ranked, but sproles open so many holes we need a replacement.. Sorry guys cadets not it

Dude you sound like you think you have some superior understanding of all things Saints and are dispensing your wisdom to the rabble. I have a feeling that you don't know any more than the rest of us, and if you do, please tell us where you're getting your exclusive insights.

Danno 03-29-2014 08:17 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
No one is saying Cadet is Sproles, only that he possesses a similar skill set and will be called on to help do some of the things sproles did.

NewDeal 03-29-2014 08:37 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
He did have a couple of good run back, but for some reason he didn't get any more chances. I can only think that SP knows what he is capable of.

Danno 03-29-2014 08:41 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDeal (Post 586026)
He did have a couple of good run back, but for some reason he didn't get any more chances. I can only think that SP knows what he is capable of.

I think it was primarily because he wasn't needed

blackangold 03-29-2014 08:54 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Sorry but Cadet is needs to prove something before he is just given Sproles roll.

I don't think Cadet is worth a roster spot ( just my opinion) and really hope this is a ploy for draft purposes.

ScottF 03-29-2014 09:39 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
To recap:
our head coach says we have a guy who can 'help' fill the void left by Sproles
immediately there is a lynch mob that says Cadet won't make the team, fumbles too much, and that he needs to prove himself

no offense, but I think I'll just go with SP's assessment

blackangold 03-29-2014 09:47 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 586032)
To recap:
our head coach says we have a guy who can 'help' fill the void left by Sproles
immediately there is a lynch mob that says Cadet won't make the team, fumbles too much, and that he needs to prove himself

no offense, but I think I'll just go with SP's assessment

Like I said before it's just my opinion. I have been and will be wrong about many things before my time is up.

Luda34 03-30-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
I will be surprise if Cadet is on the team next year

hagan714 03-30-2014 10:37 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
i think the point is it will take more than one player to fill the void and even then we may come up short.

TheOak 03-31-2014 06:48 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Referencing "void" feels like the Sproles roll is a part of the game plan that cant change... I figured certain rolls going away would be a huge start in addressing our predictability and I get he feeling some people would rather be comfortable than Champions. The two do not necessarily coexist.

How valuable is the "Sproles roll"? Depends on what you consider successful.

Our greatest success was a season absent of the Sproles roll, and Goliath like TE.:saintsfan:

hagan714 04-01-2014 06:47 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Cadet is replaceable at this point. no big loss

Robinson is a huge question mark going into the season. he had his issue holding onto the ball also and got lucky once or twice in the regular season when he put the rock on the turf. he needs to prove himself still

Ingram is still an enigma wrapped inside a riddle.

PT is the only real thing we got you can place your faith in at this point.

lsusaint912 04-01-2014 07:49 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
I just want a young speed rb or wr.. I want beckham hands down or landry. Id be happy

AlaskaSaints 04-02-2014 02:56 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Like an acid tripper chasing butterflies with this one…

Alaska

TheOak 04-02-2014 08:39 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Darren Sproles can’t be replaced, but Travaris Cadet, others can ease loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 586486)
Like an acid tripper chasing butterflies with this one…

Alaska


Through the window pane she flew in.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:59 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com