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The New Orleans Saints have overhauled their secondary more than any other position group over the past two years, adding free agents Jairus Byrd, Keenan Lewis and Champ Bailey and first-round draft pick Kenny Vaccaro.

But don't think for a second that the Saints will ignore those positions in the draft -- especially if they get a crack at a top prospect such as Oklahoma State cornerback Justin Gilbert or Louisville safety Calvin Pryor.

Both of those top draft prospects are visiting New Orleans this week. Pryor was in town Monday, according to multiple reports. And Gilbert flew to New Orleans on Monday night, according to his own Twitter feed.
Cornerback seems like a bigger need for the Saints right now. A rookie such as Gilbert could battle Bailey and others for a starting job immediately. The Saints are more loaded at safety with Byrd and Vaccaro locked up long-term and Rafael Bush recently re-signing a two-year deal.

But the Saints have always proven in the past that they firmly believe in the best-available-player principle in the draft (aside from a handful of positions they really don't need). They demonstrated that again last year, when safety didn't appear to be one of their most glaring needs before they took Vaccaro.

And if anyone can figure out how to plug in a great athlete somewhere, it's creative defensive coordinator Rob Ryan.

The bigger problem with both Gilbert and Pryor is that virtually zero analysts believe there's a chance they could fall to the Saints at No. 27. New Orleans would probably have to trade up to snag one of them.

Gilbert (6-foot, 202 pounds) is especially enticing. He's a sensational athlete who posted the fastest 40-yard dash time of any cornerback at the NFL scouting combine (4.37 seconds) and also served as a standout kickoff returner in college. He returned a total of six kickoffs for touchdowns in college.

Gilbert intercepted seven passes last year for Oklahoma State and returned two of those for touchdowns, as well. However, opinions are a bit mixed on just how high he might go. Some have projected him as a possible top-10 pick, though ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay is admittedly lower on him than most, ranking him 24th overall.

McShay cites Gilbert's inconsistent production and focus. He had a breakout year as a sophomore in 2011 with five interceptions, then had zero as a junior before his terrific senior season.

Perhaps his inconsistency makes Gilbert a risky investment as a top-10 pick. But he sure seems like he'd be a home run for the Saints if he slips into their reach.

Pryor, meanwhile, also seems to be a home run prospect. He's certainly a power hitter.

The 5-11, 207-pounder is known as a big hitter and standout run supporter as an in-the-box safety. He's also athletic enough to hold his own in coverage.

Pryor had seven interceptions and nine forced fumbles in his three-year college career, and he ran the 40 in 4.58 seconds. He is battling Alabama's Ha Ha Clinton-Dix to become the first safety drafted.

Rice still in play: The Saints are still among the teams in play for free-agent receiver Sidney Rice, according to a league source. The Saints showed interest in Rice earlier this offseason. And he is now cleared to resume football activities after recovering from a torn ACL, according to Pro Football Talk. PFT, which said Rice might sign somewhere soon, also listed the Seattle Seahawks, New York Giants and Carolina Panthers among teams interested in Rice.

Rice, 27, was a dynamic receiver early in his career with the Minnesota Vikings, with a Pro Bowl season in 2009 (1,312 yards, eight touchdowns). But he has battled a series of injuries during the past four years with both the Seahawks (2011-2013) and Vikings (2007-2010).

The 6-foot-4, 202-pounder suffered the torn ACL midway through last season and finished with just 15 catches for 231 yards and three touchdowns in eight games played. In 2012, Rice had 50 catches for 748 yards and seven touchdowns in a full season with the Seahawks.

Herron's draft diary: Another player who made a pre-draft visit to New Orleans recently was Wyoming receiver Robert Herron, a projected mid-round pick. Herron shared a few details from the trip, plus his thoughts on how excited he'd be to join the Saints in a draft diary he's writing for USA Today.

Saints show interest in Justin Gilbert, Calvin Pryor and Sidney Rice - ESPN

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Old 04-15-2014, 10:08 AM   #2
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Waiting for the draft is taking forever! Cmon!
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I can understand Gilbert (duh!), and Rice, but Pryor?

With Vaccaro and Byrd set for the next several years, I don't see how Pryor fits, especially considering the players that should be available when we pick. I know we run a lot of 3-safety sets but I can't see Pryor in lieu of what will probably be a comparable BPA at WR, ILB, OLB, DE, DT or CB.

Due diligence? Smokescreen?
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Had we not matched Bush offer sheet id be delighted with Pryor makes no sense now unless they are hoping to bring in a trade offer if he falls to us.
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I can understand Gilbert (duh!), and Rice, but Pryor?

Due diligence? Smokescreen?
Best player available. And the Saints do like to play 3-player Safety sets. Vaccaro, Pryor, Bush and Byrd. That's quite a rotation for the Byrd Bath defense.

Rice should be an incentive contract to see if he makes it through training camp.
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Really worried about a offer for Rice. He has everything you wont but multiple concussion and many muscular injuries is a massive worry.
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Sure if they fall to us BPA...

You really don't know whats going to happen Draft Day until it happens.
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I can understand Gilbert (duh!), and Rice, but Pryor?

With Vaccaro and Byrd set for the next several years, I don't see how Pryor fits, especially considering the players that should be available when we pick. I know we run a lot of 3-safety sets but I can't see Pryor in lieu of what will probably be a comparable BPA at WR, ILB, OLB, DE, DT or CB.

Due diligence? Smokescreen?
I was thinking the same way back when we had Ricky Williams and drafted Deuce but that turned out to be a pretty smart move.
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I was thinking the same way back when we had Ricky Williams and drafted Deuce but that turned out to be a pretty smart move.
I think thats apples and oranges. The difference being Deuce was clearly the BPA at that time, and they kinda knew Ricky was a headcase.

I don't see Pryor being that much of a BPA than what will likely be there at 27.

But who knows, maybe the Saints have him as a top 10 player on their board.
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Bush cover skills are unknown, he is a hard hitter. Pryors skill set is more well rounded than Bush, maybe Atlanta gives up a pick for Bush and we get Pryor.
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