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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I\'m not gonna stoop to childish name-calling with any of you big, ugly boogerheads... :P [Edited on 29/11/2004 by mutineer10]...

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Old 11-28-2004, 10:35 PM   #121
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I\'m not gonna stoop to childish name-calling with any of you big, ugly boogerheads...

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Old 11-29-2004, 09:11 AM   #122
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The smiling thing...I think it adds insult to injury. I think it is one of those knee-jerk reactions that some people have. You know you are not suppose to be smiling, but you just can\'t help yourself...kinda psychological. I know this is the case for AB...I saw him against the Broncos coming off the field after a pick, and I swear it looked like he was stretching his face down in an attempt to keep the smile off his face. I don\'t think he wants to smile, I just think it is his way of dealing with adversity. I don\'t hold it against him, because I do think that he wishes it didn\'t happen...it is just one of those things. I do respect him more, now, for at least trying to control it.

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Old 11-29-2004, 10:53 AM   #123
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LB,

We agree! Thanks for the first hand account.

It is like people laughing at really horrifying and shocking things, then. For example, some people laugh when they see a car accident, not because it is funny, but because that is the way their body responds that particular horror. Or people who smile while they genuinely begin crying - its got something to do with emotion overload.

If you\'re right, it could be the case that Brooks is smiling exactly because he cares - as opposed to the opposite. His emotions have got the better of him in these cases (of course, there is something not altogether good about that either, but your point is that the smiling could be evidence for or against his caring).

Nice point.

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Old 11-29-2004, 10:59 AM   #124
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BMG,

I could see Tennessee being interested. Brooks\' big arm and athleticism may falsely remind them of a younger McNair.

I\'m still not sold on the idea we could get too much for him. I still suggest to teams with unproven or lesser QBs (and there are several), he is probably worth a second rounder and possibly a backup player - IF they have a QB coach or a HC who has some ability in nurturing QBs. Who is Tennesse\'s QB coach?

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Old 11-29-2004, 11:50 AM   #125
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If we could get a 2nd for Brooks I\'d wet myself.

I do think we might be able to get a 3rd. A new coach may bring in his own vet familiar with his system while a newcomer or rookie learns.

I wouldn\'t mind a bit if a Kitna or Dilfer type came in to take over while a promising rookie learns the ropes.

Of course, Brees would be too sweet.

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Old 11-29-2004, 04:12 PM   #126
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Where is Whodat?
What? You need more from me? Didn\'t I already say that AB is THE problem for the Saints? Get rid of him and this team goes 14-2... that\'s what I said, right? LOL

The argument for pro-Brooksians these days seems to be (a) he isn\'t the biggest problem, so why are we even talking about him, (b) if the defense didn\'t suck his bone-headed backwards passes wouldn\'t matter so much, and/or (c) there\'s no other good QBs out there so let\'s stick with him.

All of those statements may be true, but they sure don\'t paint a pretty picture of AB. Basically, you\'re all saying, yeah, AB sucks, but the defense and available backups suck more. So what, he still sucks and is therefore a problem worth addressing, no?


Funny to see Danno \"wetting\" himself over a 2nd rounder for AB. Weren\'t you a \"Brooks Lover\" Danno? Don\'t tell me now that you always disliked AB and Haslett.

I think he is worth a first rounder. If Tewsucky Jones is, AB is. Some other moron HC will get caught up in his stats, will watch a highlight film and decide that he can work the \"lowlights\" out of AB. I bet we could get a 1 for him. Certainly a 2nd.

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:29 PM   #127
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WhoDat,

You\'ve returned just in time for me to agree with all that you\'ve said here. Except these two things: (1) I don\'t remember anyone saying that AB isn\'t a problem, and (2) you don\'t have to say he sucks to think that he is a problem.

What everyone said is that he is not the problem other people were making him out to be. I see no problem with holding that position, and you seem to agree.

As far as Brooks \"sucking\", I have nothing to say until \"sucking\" is operationalized in some way - agree or disagree we will be left with the problem of sorting out what \"sucks\" means.

Also, you are well aware of the fact that people change their mind. Sure, I\'m in favor of calling people on their self-contradictions, but I don\'t see what someone said months ago has much to do with anything, unless they\'re still saying it.

As far as getting a first round pick, I could see that. However, it is my experience that people overvalue their draft picks. Thus, I\'m skeptical that we\'ll get that high a price.

Also, I was just wondering where you were, but I do appreciate the additional arguments.

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:57 PM   #128
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What rookies do you see Danno? Seriously, whose coming out this year and where are they falling in the draft? I haven\'t followed it very closely thus far.
I haven\'t either gator. I\'ll probably pay more attention around the Senior Bowl.
And you are 100% correct about Stuart \"gangsta\" Scott. The only one more annoying than him is Michael \"JJ\" Irvin, or Kenny Mayne, or Deion Sanders, or Rich Eisen.
I\'m in the wrong biz.

WhoDat... Just because you think Aaron Brooks is the only problem this team has don\'t try to paint me as a lifelong Brooks lover.

You can go back and read my 10,000 posts and you\'ll see I usually give him props when he deserves them and hammer his eye-owning goofy smilin backwards throwin asss when he needs it. I just love pointing out hipocrisy in the AB debates. It makes my day.

I don\'t think with a defense on pace to be the worst in NFL history that anyone should be pointing the finger only at the QB.

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:58 PM   #129
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I think we should have a lottery to see who our targets should be; what do you think?
JKool, I just thought I\'d get my shots in on WhoDat. I\'m frankly tired of him coming in here and thinking he can get by on his good looks alone. :rollinglaugh:

Do you think we could interest Tennessee in a trade for Brooks if McNair retires on them?
I think they like this Volleck kid..he played pretty well...when he had to start..one thing is for sure though..They better make sure they get a really good back up..cuz Mcnair has really been hurting the last two years...
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:11 PM   #130
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If it turns out the Titans might be interested in AB, how awesome would it be to get Keith Bulluck for him, huh?

A guy can dream, can\'t he?

Of course, we\'d still need a QB...

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