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Oak, you know quite a lot about this stuff so I thought I'd ask a question to clear this jimmy graham thing up for me.

Regardless of what the league says he is - a WR/TE, what happens when the franchise tag figure comes back if a long term deal is not done?

The main reason I ask is because an article I read recently, said if a team puts an offer in for him and we don't match we get there 2015 and 2016 first round picks? Is this correct?
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Oak, you know quite a lot about this stuff so I thought I'd ask a question to clear this jimmy graham thing up for me.

Regardless of what the league says he is - a WR/TE, what happens when the franchise tag figure comes back if a long term deal is not done?

The main reason I ask is because an article I read recently, said if a team puts an offer in for him and we don't match we get there 2015 and 2016 first round picks? Is this correct?
If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders.

But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks.

To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option.
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If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders.

But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks.

To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option.
Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!
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Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!
Jimmy would have to want to sign with them, and I just don't see it unless they offer him an absurd deal he can't refuse.

Here's a twist, if a team trades their 2015 pick tonight, and then next week makes a play on Jimmy, we may then only get their 2016 and 2017 picks.

Seems like there should be a clause that prohibits teams without their next two 1st round picks from trying that little trick.
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I thought you had to have a pick that year to make offer.
I expect the clowns to make him a offer, they wint be picking as high again next year (well they don't think they will).
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Get a great, physical receiver and DUMP this CLOWN.
Over-inflated ego is bad for the team.
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Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says

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Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!
As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees.

Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal.
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Get a great, physical receiver and DUMP this CLOWN.
Over-inflated ego is bad for the team.
Where did you get the crazy idea that he has an over-inflated ego? Do you honestly not understand what is going on?
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As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees.

Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal.
no team has, nor has any tagged player sat out a season (not signed the tag)
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I'm tired of all this JG stuff...he is a TE period...but like it or not, every team game plans against him...and when they take him away we don't have a consistent WR that steps up...if we get rid of him then we better get a WR early....otherwise we will find out real soon how average all our WRs are. Colston can't stay healthy...Toon hasn't show anything...Ebron is just aa smaller JG...wasn't asked to block...and isn't as good as JG...losing him would require us to overhaul our offense even more...we only have about 2-3 yrs left with Brees...so if he wants him the Saints will find a way to keep him.
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