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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I know this is not going to a popular position, but I don't like the trade up to Brandon Cooks. I have no doubt he is a great prospect and all the experts really like the pick, but in this ...

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Old 05-09-2014, 11:57 AM   #1
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I know this is not going to a popular position, but I don't like the trade up to Brandon Cooks. I have no doubt he is a great prospect and all the experts really like the pick, but in this wideout rich draft, was it really the best move for a team that is probably four players away from a Super Bowl.
As it broke yesterday we were in position to make a huge move down and get really good value for our pick, because Bridgewater fell and Minnesota and Houston both wanted him. We could have gotten the #33 and #65 picks for #27, because of Bridgewater. Then we could have gone down to #40 and gotten #98 from Minnesota for the #33 pick for them to take Carr at qb. Setting us up to get center, cb, olb, and wr.
With our cap situation, the draft is about the best way for us to fill a roster cheaply. I feel like the Saints became enamoured with a player and traded to get him. With Graham, Colston, Stills, Watson, Morgan and Toon, I don't see the immediate need, especially when you have a second year undrafted free agent protecting Drew. I just don't see it.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:33 PM   #2
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Re: I don't like the trade

You will get over it when you see this:

"Where did he go?! "



"Oh, he's almost in the endzone."

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:37 PM   #3
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Rookie starters at center, CB, wr, and OLB isn't going to win us a Super Bowl. Nor is it guaranteed the people we pick at those spots will even work out to be long term solutions. You go after the players who you believe in. Trying to fill a dire positional need with an unproven rookie is what teams in the bottom half of the draft do.

You will never be able to fill every hole on a team.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:40 PM   #4
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Re: I don't like the trade

I definitely see the immediate need for an explosive play maker like Cooks for this reason

Colston - awesome but ageing (injuries catch up with him more often)
Stills - going to be a great player but not a Number 1 WR as of yet
Morgan - constantly injured
Toon - Injured or hands of butter when he gets on the field
Graham - when he's on point, he's unstoppable, when defenders get physical he doesn't want to know
Watson - solid depth guy but is ageing
Meachem - has games where he has two massive plays, then disappears for weeks

We need a guy like cooks to inject some play making ability and some explosiveness to our offense as its been slowly degrading since 2012

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So you're saying that any rookie coming in is not going to be an impact player because he is inexperienced? Then by your reasoning Brandon Cooks is not going to do anything either.
I'm warning you if we don't do something about the offensive line, we are going nowhere. You cannot hope to go through a season without an injury on the o-line. So not only do have to have five good starters, but at least two if not three backups.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:35 PM   #6
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I'm sorry. This guy is Steve Smith with character, and he's worth every bit of that THIRD rounder we gave up to get him. He solves multiple issues and will keep us dynamic for years to come. I would have been happy with other players, and I could have been happy staying put or trading back too, but this was yet another excellent move by our FO. Period.
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The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl?

You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios.
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Originally Posted by gumbeauxx View Post
So you're saying that any rookie coming in is not going to be an impact player because he is inexperienced? Then by your reasoning Brandon Cooks is not going to do anything either.
I'm warning you if we don't do something about the offensive line, we are going nowhere. You cannot hope to go through a season without an injury on the o-line. So not only do have to have five good starters, but at least two if not three backups.
Sean will address any need we have on O line-trust me. We have the oldest offense in the NFL. We need young playmakers. The only defensive players I would have traded up for or picked in our spot is Clowney,Gilbert,Mack,orMosley. An explosive wr was a good choice and I doubt he would have made it to 27.
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As far as the 3rd rounder....weve went 2 drafts in a row w/o both seconds and a first and came out just fine. I aint sweatin it. Sean got this....relax.
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Sean will address any need we have on O line-trust me. We have the oldest offense in the NFL. We need young playmakers. The only defensive players I would have traded up for or picked in our spot is Clowney,Gilbert,Mack,orMosley. An explosive wr was a good choice and I doubt he would have made it to 27.
Agreed, and it was rumored that Green Bay wanted him at 21, and Carolina could have easily jumped us for him if we just stayed put.

Way too many variables for any kind of accurate hindsight.
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