Result of the Graham Hearing

lee909 · 06-25-2014, 07:02 PM

1+1 is 436324644357823940263

That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year.

He has an outstanding case that he will probably win.
According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way:
45 percent as a slot receiver,
33 percent as an in-line tight end
22 percent as a wide receiver.

So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then

Utah_Saint · 06-25-2014, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

1+1 is 436324644357823940263

That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year.

He has an outstanding case that he will probably win.
According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way:
45 percent as a slot receiver,
33 percent as an in-line tight end
22 percent as a wide receiver.

So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then

Where is the Slot defined as a TE position?

If that's the case, then Eddie Royal, Wes Welker, Tavon Austin, Dexter McCluster, Jericho Cotchery should all be designated TEs too. Jimmy Graham lined up wide out more often than any of them.

lee909 · 06-25-2014, 11:50 PM

There is no such position as a slot receiver.

The "Slot Receiver" is anyone lining up wide of the line and inside of the WR.
RB/TE and WR can receive in what is regarded as the slot.

Look at the link below show Sproles lining up in the 'slot' and then Graham doing the same. Neither are WR but lining up a few yards off the traditional position that a TE/RB would line up to get them a clean go
The wording and tags need changed but that should have no impact on this case as it stands.

Know the Score, Week 5: Who dat gonna beat dem Saints? - SBNation.com

Beastmode · 06-25-2014, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

1+1 is 436324644357823940263

That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year.

He has an outstanding case that he will probably win.
According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way:
45 percent as a slot receiver,
33 percent as an in-line tight end
22 percent as a wide receiver.

So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then

If I'm doing a job and 78% of the time I'm doing the job of a higher salary employee well then hello desk audit! Time for me to get paid.

I could see this forcing the NFL to create more defined roles of players outlined in contracts, like really defined year to year. Sproles could have been a WR as well.

Utah_Saint · 06-26-2014, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

There is no such position as a slot receiver.

The "Slot Receiver" is anyone lining up wide of the line and inside of the WR.
RB/TE and WR can receive in what is regarded as the slot.

Look at the link below show Sproles lining up in the 'slot' and then Graham doing the same. Neither are WR but lining up a few yards off the traditional position that a TE/RB would line up to get them a clean go
The wording and tags need changed but that should have no impact on this case as it stands.

Know the Score, Week 5: Who dat gonna beat dem Saints? - SBNation.com

I'm confused (it happens a lot more than I care to admit) how can you add the slot snaps to the TE position but in the next post explain that slot doesn't define a position?

Utah_Saint · 06-26-2014, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If I'm doing a job and 78% of the time I'm doing the job of a higher salary employee well then hello desk audit! Time for me to get paid.

I could see this forcing the NFL to create more defined roles of players outlined in contracts, like really defined year to year. Sproles could have been a WR as well.

IF Sproles (or any running back) lined up in a receivers position (slot or wide) more than in the backfield and IF he were being franchised as a RB, you can bet dollars to donuts he'd appeal a RB designation, it's a difference of 2.5 million a year. That's a heck of a negotiating position. He'd be crazy if he didn't.

06-25-2014, 07:02 PM	#21
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,715 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing 1+1 is 436324644357823940263 That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year. He has an outstanding case that he will probably win. According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way: 45 percent as a slot receiver, 33 percent as an in-line tight end 22 percent as a wide receiver. So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then ScottF and Beastmode like this.

06-25-2014, 11:26 PM	#22
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing Originally Posted by lee909 1+1 is 436324644357823940263 That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year. He has an outstanding case that he will probably win. According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way: 45 percent as a slot receiver, 33 percent as an in-line tight end 22 percent as a wide receiver. So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then Where is the Slot defined as a TE position? If that's the case, then Eddie Royal, Wes Welker, Tavon Austin, Dexter McCluster, Jericho Cotchery should all be designated TEs too. Jimmy Graham lined up wide out more often than any of them.

06-25-2014, 11:50 PM	#23
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,715 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing There is no such position as a slot receiver. The "Slot Receiver" is anyone lining up wide of the line and inside of the WR. RB/TE and WR can receive in what is regarded as the slot. Look at the link below show Sproles lining up in the 'slot' and then Graham doing the same. Neither are WR but lining up a few yards off the traditional position that a TE/RB would line up to get them a clean go The wording and tags need changed but that should have no impact on this case as it stands. Know the Score, Week 5: Who dat gonna beat dem Saints? - SBNation.com Utah_Saint likes this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing Originally Posted by lee909 1+1 is 436324644357823940263 That could well be up there as the dumbest article of the year. He has an outstanding case that he will probably win. According to ESPN.com, Graham's snaps were divided the following way: 45 percent as a slot receiver, 33 percent as an in-line tight end 22 percent as a wide receiver. So Graham set up as a TE in 78% of snaps then If I'm doing a job and 78% of the time I'm doing the job of a higher salary employee well then hello desk audit! Time for me to get paid. I could see this forcing the NFL to create more defined roles of players outlined in contracts, like really defined year to year. Sproles could have been a WR as well.
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06-26-2014, 12:14 AM	#25
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing Originally Posted by lee909 There is no such position as a slot receiver. The "Slot Receiver" is anyone lining up wide of the line and inside of the WR. RB/TE and WR can receive in what is regarded as the slot. Look at the link below show Sproles lining up in the 'slot' and then Graham doing the same. Neither are WR but lining up a few yards off the traditional position that a TE/RB would line up to get them a clean go The wording and tags need changed but that should have no impact on this case as it stands. Know the Score, Week 5: Who dat gonna beat dem Saints? - SBNation.com I'm confused (it happens a lot more than I care to admit) how can you add the slot snaps to the TE position but in the next post explain that slot doesn't define a position?

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Result of the Graham Hearing Originally Posted by Beastmode If I'm doing a job and 78% of the time I'm doing the job of a higher salary employee well then hello desk audit! Time for me to get paid. I could see this forcing the NFL to create more defined roles of players outlined in contracts, like really defined year to year. Sproles could have been a WR as well. IF Sproles (or any running back) lined up in a receivers position (slot or wide) more than in the backfield and IF he were being franchised as a RB, you can bet dollars to donuts he'd appeal a RB designation, it's a difference of 2.5 million a year. That's a heck of a negotiating position. He'd be crazy if he didn't.

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