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Old 07-02-2014, 06:13 PM   #41
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yea jimmy we'll see, now get on your knees an apologize you crook.
What does he have to apologize for?
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:15 PM   #42
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HE NEEDS TO PUNISH HIS GREEDY AGENT
This wasn't perpetrated by his agent, either. It was all NFLPA driven. Greed had nothing to do with this. It was for clarification of the CBA.
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I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion.
In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet.
This way nobody feels "screwed over"
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How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.

Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play.
I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit.

I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might.
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How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.
I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag
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I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag
Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal. All this same talk was going around when Brees was tagged. Guess what? Loomis and the Saints came to terms with Brees' agent for a deal, while huge at the time, is nothing compared to what pedestrian QB's are and will be receiving since.
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I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion.
That's the media's job. It's the football equivalent to E! News. Honestly this is one of the reasons the Saints have so little National media coverage. There's no drama to discuss.
In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet.
This way nobody feels "screwed over"
I'm in complete agreement.

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Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal.
That was my point exactly.
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I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit.

I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might.
Even at 30 I would think he would still be very close to the fastest 6'5" TE in the league ... and consider that he is still learning the position. He will get better every year.

Consider what other players do in their off days. Graham's two loves are flying and community service. You never hear or see anything about him doing anything else. How many young people have the personal dedication to get a private pilots license? I know what it takes. My late father was a flight instructor. You have to go far and above to get one.

I truly hope that once this is all over most people will understand what happened and appreciate what we have as Saints fans in Jimmy Graham.

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It seems everyone is pushing for about 10mil a year. How can we do this with roughly about 1.5 mil left in cap room?
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