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Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 600180)

Yes but the heat should be on every player that suits up, if any starter would get beat out and so-be-it ,thats the only way to improve at each position. I never have liked the thought of being penciled in that only makes things weak.

True...but the salary cap and the escalation penalties have made it prohibitive from cutting a player; hence, you get got penciled in like Grubbs, Lofton...

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 600186)

True...but the salary cap and the escalation penalties have made it prohibitive from cutting a player; hence, you get got penciled in like Grubbs, Lofton...

But that works both ways. This season, Lofton will have to play at a level that proves he can't be replaced by a $4million/year LBer. Hawthorne will have to play better than a $3million. Otherwise, it's cheaper to cut them eat the dead money and pay a much cheaper player.

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

Utah, per OverTheCap, cutting Lofton and Hawthorne would result in "Cap Savings" of ($2,800,000) and ($1,020,000), respectively; of note when a value is in parenthesis, that's a negative, so they're penciled in, at least to the roster...

But Payton, which is why I love the Coach, will not let that stop him from starting or playing the better player more...

Source: » Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

Nice link, JP. It shows we have about $13 million in dead money right now.

Now just what could we do with an additional $13 million?

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 600214)

jeanpierre, those are the 2015 numbers I was referring too. I meant Lofton and Hawthorne have 2014 to prove themselves.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orlea...curtis-lofton/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orlea...vid-hawthorne/

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 600216)

Right, definitely a "transition" year...

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 600215)

Nice link, JP. It shows we have about $13 million in dead money right now.

Now just what could we do with an additional $13 million?

Sign Megatron...

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

Here's what we have going into training camp...

SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin

RB (5) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet, Tim Flanders (UDFA)

FB (1) Erik Lorig, Austin Johnson

WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandin Cooks (R1, 20), Nick Toon, Andy Tanner

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Tavon Rooks (R6, 202), Ty Nsekhe, Jason Weaver

LG (1) Ben Grubbs, Manase Foketi

C (2) Tim Lelito, Jonathan Goodwin, Matt Armstrong (UDFA)

RG (1) Jahri Evans, Senio Kelemete

RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris, Thomas Welch, Marcel Jones

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Je'Ron Hamm (UDFA), Nic Jacobs

WR (3) Kenny Stills, Robert Meachem, Brandon Coleman (UDFA), Joe Morgan

DEFENSE

DE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker, George Uko (UDFA)

NT (2) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (3) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster, Brandon Deaderick

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson, Chidera Uzo-Diribe

ILB (3) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Khairi Fortt (R4, 126)

ILB (2) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick, Kyle Knox

OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Victor Butler, Ronald Powell (R5, 169), Cheta Ozougwu

CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, Patrick Robinson, Trevin Wade

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri (R5, 169), Marcus Ball, Ty Zimmerman (UDFA)

FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA)

CB (3) Champ Bailey, Stanley Jean-Baptiste (R2, 58), Patrick Sweeting, Terrence Frederick

SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham, Derek Dimke

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

H Thomas Morstead

PR Brandin Cooks (R1, 20), Travaris Cadet

KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham

KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Franchise Tagged/Restricted - Unsigned

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Draft Pick (R#, Pick#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA)

Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

SAINTS PROJECTED DEPTH CHART - 2014

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin

RB (5) Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Travaris Cadet, Tim Flanders (UDFA)

FB (1) Erik Lorig

WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandin Cooks (R1, 20), Nick Toon

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Tavon Rooks (R6, 202)

LG (1) Ben Grubbs

C (2) Tim Lelito, Jonathan Goodwin

RG (1) Jahri Evans

RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill

WR (3) Kenny Stills, Robert Meachem, Brandon Coleman (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (3) Cameron Jordan, Tyrunn Walker, George Uko (UDFA)

NT (2) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Glenn Foster

OLB (2) Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson

ILB (3) Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Khairi Fortt (R4, 126)

ILB (2) David Hawthorne, Kevin Reddick

OLB (2) Parys Haralson, Ronald Powell (R5, 169)

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, Patrick Robinson

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Marcus Ball

FS (2) Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush (RFA)

CB (2) Champ Bailey, Stanley Jean-Baptiste (R2, 58)

SPECIALISTS

K (1) Shayne Graham

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

H Thomas Morstead

PR Brandin Cooks (R1, 20), Travaris Cadet

KR Travaris Cadet, Pierre Thomas

KO Thomas Morstead, Shayne Graham

KEY:

POS (#Likely Slots)

Projected Starter

Franchise Tagged/Restricted - Unsigned

Free Agent

Free Agent (RFA) {Restricted Free Agent}

Free Agent (ERFA) {Exclusive Rights Free Agent}

Free Agent (FC) {Futures Contract}

Draft Pick (R#, Pick#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA)

Who'd I'd consider the odds on to be on the roster after camp...

Wish list would include another special teams returner, an inside offensive linemen, and an offensive tackle to develop...

See Haralson and Butler fighting it out for a spot and the other not on the team...

Don't like it but Lofton and Hawthorne have Salary Cap Job Security; that doesn't mean Payton won't play better options...

Austin Johnson has opportunity to upset Lorig at FB; will watch that one...

Meachem's salary cap number may make him suspect; but I'm not sure Coach wants that much turnover in the WR and he does offer much even if he was a bust as a Round one pick...

A good cornerback isn't going to make this roster; unless Robinson really regresses or caves during competition, I think he gets another oppotunity...

Sure wished we'd drafted another big Nose Tackle...