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How long do you think Aaron Brooks will holdout and how much will he ask for? Can the Saints sign him to a big deal now- do we have the cap room? :o

It will last as long as it take for the Saints to pay Brooks what he\'s worth.

He\'s a starting NFL quarterback thats won a playoff game.

He\'s worth milllions (ie like Carr and Vick) not $400,000.

Thats the world we live in.

I can\'t blame him, what if he got a neck injury like Kevin Mathis did? His career would be over and saints aren\'t going to give him money after a injury.

In my opinion this is a failure on Loomis\' and Bensen\'s part, how they handel it will tell how the rest of the season will go.

Jeff :casstet:

I agree that is the state of the game. It just so happens the economy is in a down period and the owners, especially with that cap tax thing hangin over em, are not in a mood to pay these fancy contract prices anymore. What Loomis and Bentson should do is sit down with the kid (why haven\'t they already done this), and see if they can work it out. :casstet:

i totally agree with you. the saints management need to get this thing done and in a hurry. we are hurting ourselves within and haven\'t played a single quarter for the 02-03 year.

While I agree that AB should be making more money, you have to realize that he signed a contract for 3 years. He should honor that. And the Saints are not going to negotiate with anyone who is not in training camp. And I don\'t blame them. If AB is not happy he should at least make contact with the organization and let them know something. He\'s acting like they don\'t any alternatives and he can do them anyway he likes. This is my opinion is wrong.

If this is about a new contract with Brooks then he has shown his true colors in a childish manner . He thinks he can hide and pout and the pot of gold will magically appear for him to be happy about .

Leave him alone , If he shows and wants to finish out his current contract , he is the no.2 qb until proving himself capable of leadership and ability . This is not good for the team or the franchise to have a player who acts in such a fashion .

This is in no way a reflection of the management or the ownership , he is under contract and has a full year left on it . I am sure the ownership would like to see what they are buying with a huge contract , evaluate the progression of skills and judgement before having to make room under the cap for a contract he feels comfortable with .He is proving for him it is not about the love of the game but the love of the money . This is not the way a leader of a team handles things .

Too those who say , the ownership should have given him a big contract before now , I say based on what ?? He is hot and cold and an unproven player , with questionable leadership skills that his position demands . All he is doing is proving them right for not approaching him with a larger contract .

Consider Tom Brady in New England , all he did was replace a proven all-pro Quarterback named Drew Bledsoe and win the Super Bowl . His current contract amount is $400,000 and he is in camp preparing to defend the title of Super Bowl Champion .

Seems to be quite a difference in what it takes to lead a team to the Super Bowl and what it takes to lead a team to a 7 and 9 losing season , some players have the desire to finish what they started ...

I totally agree with saintz08. He signed the contract so he should honor it. If he wanted more then he should have contacted someone about it.

BTW, why should he be worth millions? He\'s less than .500 as a starter. Like saintz08 said, Brady won the SB yet he\'s in training camp making less than millions. Is brooks worth more than brady?......NOT

I totally agree with saints08 and personally I think AB is another Rannall Cunningham. And we all know what he did in the NFL. The Eagles thought he was going to take them to the big dance. But he was too inconsistent, and couldn\'t handle pressure situations. A lot of blown plays and INT\'s. Remind you of someone else? But at least he didn\'t smile and laugh about his mistakes like AB did last year. :casstet:

Although I also agree the Saints should step up, I do have news:
KFFL and Yahoo are both reporting the return of AB and signing of Stallworth.
http://nfl.kffl.com/news/hotwire/

I agree Saintz08, He better knock that smerk off his face (reported that he didn\'t look very happy) or Jake will. If he wants a raise do what it takes and perform like you diserve one. Otherwise Jake may be taking your place.

[Edited on 29/7/2002 by Saint2]

I don\'t understand it. Why can\'t the team negotiate with Haslett and Brooks at the same time? At least keep everyone happy. I think they dropped the ball when they started announcing who was a priority or not. I blame Loomis, but Mueller did this also but I think for different reasons. Mueller was trying to tell Joe Horn he would be put last on list if he tried to force a better contract. I just don\'t see why they can\'t keep negotiations ongoing and make everyone happy, and keep their mouths shut on who is a priority. :mad:

[Edited on 7/29/2002 by DomeFoam]

My guess would be why things are announced and players are hyped is all relatively simple , Fans.

Ticket sales are down , give the fans something to get excited about .
Having trouble getting state help , give them a bone to chew on that might make them believe fans from outside the Louisianna area might come to New Orleans , say a caravan to a different state or country .

Donte Stallworths reports may have read a little differently if season ticket sales were sold out . Fans are not interested in watching their hero\'s go to other team , so announce that they will all be resigned . The order might be based upon popularity ??? Does anyone care if the third stringer is resigned ??? But the head coach !!!

I will stick to cussing when they do nothing and are content to wallow in mediocrity , not when they try or announce they are going to try ....

[Edited on 30/7/2002 by saintz08]