Which players are on the bubble?

dizzle88 · 07-25-2014, 08:13 AM

Nick toon is in danger

For 3 straight years all I've heard is how good he looks in training camp, that doesn't mean squat if you can't stay healthy or when you do get on the field you drop more passes than you catch

He really needs to step up, I still hold him accountable for the loss vs jets

ScottF · 07-25-2014, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

What about kickers?

Will the Saints stay with Graham or go with Dimke(sp)?

Well, they both suck and Dimke is cheaper, so there you have it.
To make matters worse, here is what Hartley is going to cost us this year:
$1,010,400

darstep · 07-25-2014, 01:27 PM

Joe Morgan at least has a chance with kick/punt return abilities.
Toon just has to make it happen within the offense.
Ingram did OK late in the season. Personally I like PT better; more versatile and better vision.
Payton's game plan is situational and won't give any of them enough carries to turn heads with their numbers.
Even if they have a +100 game this week, it just doesn't transfer to the next week.
The one thing we know is that they have no problem with new blood.
Players who prove they belong will be around.
Ingram is contract safe and would really have to fall flat to not get his share of opportunities.
When the roster is down to actives + PSquads, I'm thinking we will look pretty good.

Jack Vegas · 07-25-2014, 01:52 PM

Ingram? come on.

Players who are actually probably on the bubble.

McCown - I could see Griffin making him expendable.
Cadet - If he doesn't have a very good preseason, he's gone IMO.
Morgan and Meachem - IMO one of these two is gone because they play essentially the same role in the offense.
Marcel Jones - time to put up or shut up for him.
Sweeting - too many good players ahead of him.

billyt81 · 07-26-2014, 04:12 PM

Ingram will make the team. Toon is on the bubble but I think he'll eventually outplay Coleman and Hull although it's not a sure thing. I could see Hull being a special team star because he played safety in college he can surely cover kicks. Morgan will either start or we're done with him. If Morgan is healthy he's a star. He reminds me a lot of Joe Horn. But if he gets hurt again I give up. Could Pierre Thomas get outplayed by Tim Flanders or Cadet? Doubtful.

vpheughan · 07-27-2014, 10:55 AM

What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now?

|Mitch| · 07-27-2014, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now?

Drew would have ended up in Miami and Saban may still be in the NFL

billyt81 · 07-28-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Danno I really tried to like Ingram . He just hasn't panned out. It might be how we use him . He has failed repeatedly in clutch situations. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so

The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

dizzle88 · 07-28-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

Exactly, that's why the early season struggles we had were to do with our O line rather than the RB's

If our O line can put together consistent performances in run blocking, all our RB's will be tough to stop

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 01:13 PM

If Meachem can't get on the field, he isn't going to make the team.

07-25-2014, 08:13 AM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Nick toon is in danger For 3 straight years all I've heard is how good he looks in training camp, that doesn't mean squat if you can't stay healthy or when you do get on the field you drop more passes than you catch He really needs to step up, I still hold him accountable for the loss vs jets CoreyO and Schmohams like this.

07-25-2014, 11:33 AM	#12
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 What about kickers? Will the Saints stay with Graham or go with Dimke(sp)? Well, they both suck and Dimke is cheaper, so there you have it. To make matters worse, here is what Hartley is going to cost us this year: $1,010,400

07-25-2014, 01:27 PM	#13
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Joe Morgan at least has a chance with kick/punt return abilities. Toon just has to make it happen within the offense. Ingram did OK late in the season. Personally I like PT better; more versatile and better vision. Payton's game plan is situational and won't give any of them enough carries to turn heads with their numbers. Even if they have a +100 game this week, it just doesn't transfer to the next week. The one thing we know is that they have no problem with new blood. Players who prove they belong will be around. Ingram is contract safe and would really have to fall flat to not get his share of opportunities. When the roster is down to actives + PSquads, I'm thinking we will look pretty good.
	SaintSince67

07-25-2014, 01:52 PM	#14
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Ingram? come on. Players who are actually probably on the bubble. McCown - I could see Griffin making him expendable. Cadet - If he doesn't have a very good preseason, he's gone IMO. Morgan and Meachem - IMO one of these two is gone because they play essentially the same role in the offense. Marcel Jones - time to put up or shut up for him. Sweeting - too many good players ahead of him.
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07-26-2014, 04:12 PM	#15
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Ingram will make the team. Toon is on the bubble but I think he'll eventually outplay Coleman and Hull although it's not a sure thing. I could see Hull being a special team star because he played safety in college he can surely cover kicks. Morgan will either start or we're done with him. If Morgan is healthy he's a star. He reminds me a lot of Joe Horn. But if he gets hurt again I give up. Could Pierre Thomas get outplayed by Tim Flanders or Cadet? Doubtful.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by vpheughan What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now? Drew would have ended up in Miami and Saban may still be in the NFL

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by triman Danno I really tried to like Ingram . He just hasn't panned out. It might be how we use him . He has failed repeatedly in clutch situations. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

07-28-2014, 12:39 PM	#19
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by billyt81 The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem. Exactly, that's why the early season struggles we had were to do with our O line rather than the RB's If our O line can put together consistent performances in run blocking, all our RB's will be tough to stop

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? If Meachem can't get on the field, he isn't going to make the team.
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