saintswhodi

BNB true. Neither do I(have a huge pension plan), but I don\'t stand for incompetence and unrealistic expectations either.

Danno, if you didn\'t know it\'s cool, but Barry Sanders retired in his prime cause he felt his team was not trying to win. He was the greatest rb ever IMO. If it\'s good enough for Barry to quit on a bunch of losers, it\'s good enough for me. Deuce is not the first disgruntled employee on the planet, nor will he be the last. He was, is, and should be the first offensive option for this team so the priority should be to keep him happy. It wasn\'t. Case closed for me. I am sure noone will have a list of negatives next year when somone with some brains sets the ship straight coaching this team. No rb in the NFL is perfect, but if you are the key cog to your team\'s offense, and they change it, that\'s a slap in the face to me. Have at it Deuce.

Tobias, I would like to know where you are coming from. Are you saying we should get rid of Deuce? Is Deuce the problem in your opinion? The point of a hypothetical example is that it is hypothetical. It was used to explain Deuce\'s frustration with the offense which he has expressed. It has no bearing on what job he is doing. I used that example to explain how frustrating something ridiculous like that would be, like asking a 2000 total yard pro bowl back to adjust to a new offense. I thought it fit quite nicely.

deucerulez

i love deuce and i believe in an interview he said he doesnt want to play anywhere but NO, but to me this year he looks fat and slow, and to agree with the others fumbles, missed blocks as well, have turned into a crappy year for deuce

shadowdrinker_x

Well..whatever you believe , I think we can all agree that if there\'s any hope for next year to be better..Duece has to be the major component of our offense, and the guy who kicks things up a notch..

He\'s still our best player on offense in my opinion..

But..also..when other teams score so much, so early in the game..we are left trying to play catch up every game...

It makes more stres in an allready stressful situation...and when your down 20 points or more..all you can really do is throw it..and try to score fast...

If we get some new blood in here..and the team overall starts playing better..which I believe they can..you will see deusce really return to the pro bowler we all know he can be

[Edited on 11/12/2004 by shadowdrinker_x]

Tobias-Reiper

...what I meant, is that Deuce has the \"I\'m not happy\" face that we have seen before in other players... this is not last year\'s Dulymus... or 2 years ago Dulymus... this is a Dulymus that is unhappy with his situation; and I\'m pretty sure it goes way beyond the 2 TE set... again, I have to go back to Jimbo\'s \"It\'s not Brooks\' fault but everyone else\'s \"s video extravaganza of last year... I am pretty sure that lil\' indictment on all players while absolving one didn\'t sit well with the players, and it is showing...

...now, I don\'t want to make this a Brooks debate, because it isn\'t, and I am not saying somehow this is Brooks fault, OK? I\'m pointing out to off the field actions taken by the coaching staff..


[Edited on 11/12/2004 by Tobias-Reiper]

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