Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches

Danno · 08-08-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Can someone out there humor me? I cannot find any video that demonstratively shows Graham just flat sucking at blocking. If anyone can post a pointer to one, preferably from last season early before the foot injury, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

SFIAH
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According to PFF stats, he ranks middle of the pack for TE's with enough snaps to qualify.

AsylumGuido · 08-08-2014, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to PFF stats, he ranks middle of the pack for TE's with enough snaps to qualify.

So, if he truly sucked at blocking then half the TE's in the league REALLY suck at blocking, right?

Danno · 08-08-2014, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So, if he truly sucked at blocking then half the TE's in the league REALLY suck at blocking, right?

Well to be more accurate he was near the bottom of the middle third, but basically yes.
I should point out that I didn't read the pay per view stats, I only saw someone's recap. But it was a reputable poster.

AsylumGuido · 08-08-2014, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well to be more accurate he was near the bottom of the middle third, but basically yes.
I should point out that I didn't read the pay per view stats, I only saw someone's recap. But it was a reputable poster.

There is no doubt he could improve his blocking, but at what cost? His body type makes it difficult to get leverage. At 6'7" he is simply too tall in relation to his body weight as compared to many other TE's that are more accomplished blockers. But, it is that height and body style that make him the great receiver that he is. I would much rather see him as the average blocker that he truly is and remain the offensive weapon he truly is.

Danno · 08-08-2014, 05:01 PM

All true AG, and I like that he wants to improve. As long as it doesn't hurt other parts of his game it's all good.

Audiotom · 08-09-2014, 12:22 AM

He sprung a nice block in the initial drive against St Louis

hagan714 · 08-09-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

He sprung a nice block in the initial drive against St Louis

There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him. fire out of the stance and lay the lumber. oh thats right he is to tall fire out the block. at least stand in the way and push the guy on a consistent bases then you are doing better jimmy. I do not expect pancakes from jimmy at all. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

brees84 · 08-09-2014, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him.

First Cadet run. Defender was untouched. Jimmy moved to the left to avoid contact. I hope they show him that sequence in the film room.

AsylumGuido · 08-09-2014, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him. fire out of the stance and lay the lumber. oh thats right he is to tall fire out the block. at least stand in the way and push the guy on a consistent bases then you are doing better jimmy. I do not expect pancakes from jimmy at all. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

It is really sad that you have this hatred in you.

Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing.

AsylumGuido · 08-09-2014, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

First Cadet run. Defender was untouched. Jimmy moved to the left to avoid contact. I hope they show him that sequence in the film room.

Show US that clip. I call major bull****.

08-08-2014, 03:51 PM	#11
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Can someone out there humor me? I cannot find any video that demonstratively shows Graham just flat sucking at blocking. If anyone can post a pointer to one, preferably from last season early before the foot injury, I would really appreciate it. Thanks, SFIAH ' According to PFF stats, he ranks middle of the pack for TE's with enough snaps to qualify. AsylumGuido likes this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So, if he truly sucked at blocking then half the TE's in the league REALLY suck at blocking, right? Well to be more accurate he was near the bottom of the middle third, but basically yes. I should point out that I didn't read the pay per view stats, I only saw someone's recap. But it was a reputable poster.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by Danno Well to be more accurate he was near the bottom of the middle third, but basically yes. I should point out that I didn't read the pay per view stats, I only saw someone's recap. But it was a reputable poster. There is no doubt he could improve his blocking, but at what cost? His body type makes it difficult to get leverage. At 6'7" he is simply too tall in relation to his body weight as compared to many other TE's that are more accomplished blockers. But, it is that height and body style that make him the great receiver that he is. I would much rather see him as the average blocker that he truly is and remain the offensive weapon he truly is. SaintFanInATLHELL and Danno like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches All true AG, and I like that he wants to improve. As long as it doesn't hurt other parts of his game it's all good.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by hagan714 There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him. fire out of the stance and lay the lumber. oh thats right he is to tall fire out the block. at least stand in the way and push the guy on a consistent bases then you are doing better jimmy. I do not expect pancakes from jimmy at all. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam It is really sad that you have this hatred in you. Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by brees84 First Cadet run. Defender was untouched. Jimmy moved to the left to avoid contact. I hope they show him that sequence in the film room. Show US that clip. I call major bull****.

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