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Utah_Saint 08-25-2014 10:34 PM

Tanner Waived...again
 
METAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints waived three injured players Monday: receiver Andy Tanner, offensive tackle Ty Nsekhe and safety Ty Zimmerman. All three could potentially land on injured reserve.

The Saints' roster is now officially down to 83 players. They'll need to make eight more moves to get down to the required 75 players by the NFL's 4 p.m. ET/3 p.m. CT deadline on Tuesday.

Recently-signed veteran tight end Travis Beckum also is apparently being cut. He indicated he had been cut following practice, tweeting: "Short stay with the Saints. Still a blessing to have that opportunity, now even more excited about my next one. God is great!"

Tanner's release isn't a surprise, but it still will likely rank among the Saints' most difficult cuts this year. He's been with the team since 2010, spending parts of the past four seasons on the practice squad. With his practice-squad eligibility finally expired, the former undrafted rookie from Division II Midwestern State had to crack the full 53-man roster this year.

Tanner suffered an undisclosed injury in practice last week.

"He's someone that you don't ever take for granted," Saints coach Sean Payton said of Tanner earlier in camp. "He's a guy you don't bet against. He's a grinder. He's tough. He knows what to do. Shoot, he has a lot of traits that endear himself to the team. He has the respect of his teammates, and they have seen him work, and they have seen him be successful. Defensively, guys will talk about who is tough to cover. ...I think he'd be one of those guys they would bring up."

Nsekhe joined the Saints in January after bouncing around with the St. Louis Rams, Indianapolis Colts and the Arena Football League. But he was injured off and on throughout training camp.

Zimmerman signed this year as an undrafted rookie out of Kansas State. But he's been out the past two weeks with an undisclosed injury.


New Orleans Saints waive Andy Tanner, Ty Nsekhe, Ty Zimmerman - ESPN



But is he ever really gone?

Jack Vegas 08-25-2014 11:01 PM

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He probably gets IR'ed I would imagine, just as a show of respect. Don't be shocked if he's back next year for one more try.

Utah_Saint 08-25-2014 11:05 PM

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I read somewhere earlier this year that nobody on the defense has been with the Saints longer than Tanner has been trying to make the team.

Beastmode 08-25-2014 11:20 PM

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He was on the official roster for a brief moment in time. I have a lot more respect for someone that gives it all they got as opposed to someone like Owens or Moss.

CharityMike 08-25-2014 11:31 PM

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Poor guy just can't seem to catch a break. Would have been tough sledding regardless with the receivers we currently have.

WhoDat2301 08-25-2014 11:47 PM

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Tanner is a good WR wont be surprised if he ends up back in NOLA if someone, god forbid, goes down

Mr.Riaton 08-26-2014 06:16 AM

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I wonder what he lacks thats keeping him from making the team

halloween 65 08-26-2014 06:45 AM

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Maybe he catches on with another team. My heart goes out to him.

K Major 08-26-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 605793)
I wonder what he lacks thats keeping him from making the team

Big heart but lacks the physical tools and talent required at this level.

saintsfan1976 08-26-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 605799)
Big heart but lacks the physical tools and talent required at this level.

Disagree. Talent in front of him has always been an issue.

SmashMouth 08-26-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 605806)
Disagree. Talent in front of him has always been an issue.

If he were good enough, his superlatives would be different. How would you describe Cook?

TheOak 08-26-2014 08:07 AM

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Tanner = Preseason booty call. Good enough when there is nothing else, but not talking to her when the regular season is around.

ScottF 08-26-2014 08:22 AM

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He's had 4 years to prove himself. Enough already.

But, he'll probably get IR'd and come back next year and be Rookie of the Year at age 27

NamHN420 08-26-2014 08:34 AM

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Sucks for Tanner. I really thought last year he would have ended up somewhere like patriots when they were losing receivers. Tanner looked awesome in preseason last year

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 605793)
I wonder what he lacks thats keeping him from making the team

NFL talent.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 605816)
He's had 4 years to prove himself. Enough already.

But, he'll probably get IR'd and come back next year and be Rookie of the Year at age 27

He already stated that this year would be his final attempt. It is time he moves on with his life.

Jack Vegas 08-26-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 605829)
NFL talent.

If he lacks NFL talent, then so does Lance Moore. Because they are basically the same player. Tanner's always been caught in a numbers game, nothing more nothing less. If 23-year-old Lance Moore wandered into Saints camp now he wouldn't have a chance in hell of making the team.

saintsfan1976 08-26-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 605809)
If he were good enough, his superlatives would be different. How would you describe Cook?

apples & oranges

saintsfan1976 08-26-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 605829)
NFL talent.

If that was the case, he would not have lasted 4 years with New Orleans.

hagan714 08-26-2014 10:01 AM

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i think the saints did him a favor. he has time to catch on with some one else i hope.

vpheughan 08-26-2014 10:28 AM

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John Fox suggested Benson hire Payton. Payton returns the favor and suggests to Fox about Tanner. Welker's days are numbered.

I know it doesn't work that way but maybe.....

jnormand 08-26-2014 10:52 AM

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Damn. I always wanted to see him crack the 53.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 605842)
If that was the case, he would not have lasted 4 years with New Orleans.

He lasted on the practice squad. If he had true NFL talent he would have been picked up by one of the other 31 teams or would have made the 53 man roster. The practice squad is just what it is named. It is a squad (now with ten players) that take place in practices. They are simply regular season versions of camp bodies. Sure, occasionally one makes the roster, but that normally takes fewer than four seasons. I fail to see the fascination with him.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 605844)
i think the saints did him a favor. he has time to catch on with some one else i hope.

He could have caught on anytime over these past four years if anyone thought he was worth it. But I agree, the Saints did do him a favor. They finally sent him on his way for life after football.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 12:54 PM

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Last week I heard, pretty sure it was Pat Kirwan, say that practice squad rosters usually contain several WR's and CB's who are only there to help prevent wear and tear on the active players. WR's and CB's are constantly going downfield in practice and they need relief. He said the big deal with the expansion of the roster to ten means they can carry a QB and another player that may have a legitimate shot at making the 53 man roster.

Basically, most WR's and CB's on a practice squad are simply practice fillers with little or no chance of making a roster of 53.

Danno 08-26-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 605888)
Last week I heard, pretty sure it was Pat Kirwan, say that practice squad rosters usually contain several WR's and CB's who are only there to help prevent wear and tear on the active players. WR's and CB's are constantly going downfield in practice and they need relief. He said the big deal with the expansion of the roster to ten means they can carry a QB and another player that may have a legitimate shot at making the 53 man roster.

Basically, most WR's and CB's on a practice squad are simply practice fillers with little or no chance of making a roster of 53.


And he also mentioned that they're there to star on the scout teams!
So we'll probably have a speedy WR and a tall possession type WR on the PS.

Rugby Saint II 08-26-2014 01:04 PM

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Bye bye. See you soon.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 605894)
Bye bye. See you soon.

Only if you're needing to buy some insurance.

;)

ScottF 08-26-2014 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 605837)
If he lacks NFL talent, then so does Lance Moore. Because they are basically the same player. Tanner's always been caught in a numbers game, nothing more nothing less. If 23-year-old Lance Moore wandered into Saints camp now he wouldn't have a chance in hell of making the team.

Lance and Tanner attended the same training camps for three years. One always made the active roster, one couldn't beat out Arrington, Morgan, Meachem, Roby, Hakim, etc.
Again, we gave him 4 years to prove himself, and every other team has had 4 years to sign him, and it never happened. It's not a numbers game when almost 200 wide receivers take the field each year and he never been one of them.

xan 08-26-2014 02:08 PM

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Who? 2 pages on who?

Utah_Saint 08-26-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 605872)
,,,I fail to see the fascination with him.

He didn't have the speed or strength but he ran good routes and had pretty good hands. A lot of people can relate to not being the most gifted but working hard to try and keep up. And despite being cut, he just kept trying, he kept coming back. Most people like the underdog.

You're absolutely right, he didn't have the talent to make the squad so he shouldn't have but a lot of us were hoping his dedication might pay off one day.

billyt81 08-26-2014 03:24 PM

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Tanner is little and slow. I'd like to see him race Wes Welker. I assume Welker would kill him in a 40 right?

CharityMike 08-26-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 605907)
Lance and Tanner attended the same training camps for three years. One always made the active roster, one couldn't beat out Arrington, Morgan, Meachem, Roby, Hakim, etc.
Again, we gave him 4 years to prove himself, and every other team has had 4 years to sign him, and it never happened. It's not a numbers game when almost 200 wide receivers take the field each year and he never been one of them.

To be fair, how many of those years was he hurt? IMO, he had his opportunity but got hurt and its been an uphill battle since.

ScottF 08-26-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 605931)
To be fair, how many of those years was he hurt? IMO, he had his opportunity but got hurt and its been an uphill battle since.

Other than this year, I don't believe he was ever hurt. He always ended up on the PS, not IR, which would have paid a lot more

The Dude 08-26-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 605784)
He was on the official roster for a brief moment in time. I have a lot more respect for someone that gives it all they got as opposed to someone like Owens or Moss.

That's why despite his play I always liked and respected Jason David.

CharityMike 08-26-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 605936)
Other than this year, I don't believe he was ever hurt. He always ended up on the PS, not IR, which would have paid a lot more

Had to look it up but Tanner was hurt the same game that Chamberlain got hurt. Also found out, he actually made the roster last year but ended up getting cut because of defensive injuries in the first game. They cut him on Sept. 12th to sign Jay Richardson.

jnormand 08-26-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 605872)
He lasted on the practice squad. If he had true NFL talent he would have been picked up by one of the other 31 teams or would have made the 53 man roster. The practice squad is just what it is named. It is a squad (now with ten players) that take place in practices. They are simply regular season versions of camp bodies. Sure, occasionally one makes the roster, but that normally takes fewer than four seasons. I fail to see the fascination with him.

I see your logic. But I don't think there is anything wrong with people pulling for a guy who is a long shot. You make it sound as though you think the people that were pulling for him are stupid. Some people like to root for the underdog. Nothing wrong with that. He was 4 year practice squad member who some people enjoyed rooting for. I was one of those people.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 605924)
Tanner is little and slow. I'd like to see him race Wes Welker. I assume Welker would kill him in a 40 right?

Tanner ran a 4.57 and Welker ran a 4.65. Both are slow. Welker was willing to forfeit his future heath to get blasted. Do we wish the same for this kid that can't make our squad?

AsylumGuido 08-26-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 605945)
I see your logic. But I don't think there is anything wrong with people pulling for a guy who is a long shot. You make it sound as though you think the people that were pulling for him are stupid. Some people like to root for the underdog. Nothing wrong with that. He was 4 year practice squad member who some people enjoyed rooting for. I was one of those people.

I pulled for him too that first year or two. But the writing was on the wall after that. I am as much for a good story as anyone, but above all else, I am a Saints fan and I want the Saints to be as good as they can be. If you can't cut it here is your ribbon and thank you for participating.

Lord_Saint83 08-26-2014 06:17 PM

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I still say Preston Parker was better than Tanner last preseason. I root for underdogs like when Pierre a undrafted rookie outshine Antonio Pittman a third round pick that year to make the roster. Pierre was playing with heart and like his life depended on it on special teams and at running back. Tanner has heart but thats about it. Plus we already have enough possession receivers.


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