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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 How many 3rd down conversions did Patrick Robinson allow? It was easily over 5 If he knocks one of those down on the last drive, its game over, I'd rather have baptiste at CB than have ...

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Old 09-15-2014, 02:14 PM   #21
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Re: Week 2 NO/Cle grades (reality check)

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How many 3rd down conversions did Patrick Robinson allow? It was easily over 5

If he knocks one of those down on the last drive, its game over, I'd rather have baptiste at CB than have to watch Robinson for the rest of the year
According to PFF's stats.

Robinson was thrown at 7 times, he allowed 5 receptions, 1 pass was defended, for a total of 38 yards, including 3 yards of YAC and 1 touchdown.
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How about the rest of them for our secondary? Any numbers for them?
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Old 09-15-2014, 02:57 PM   #23
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Week 2 NO/Cle grades (reality check)

Corey White

Thrown At 10

Rec 7

Yards 43

Avg 4.3

YAC 23

LG 13

QB rating against 78.3



Kennan Lewis

TA 9

Rec 5

Yards 64

Avg 7.1

YAC 32

QB rating against 78



Curtis Lofton

TA 4

Rec 2

Yards 14

Avg 3.5

YAC 22

QB rating against 58.3



David Hawthorne

TA 3

Rec 2

Yards 11

Avg 3.7

YAC 12

QB rating against 72.9



Jarius Byrd

TA 2

Rec 1

Yards 10

Avg 5

QB rating against 64.6



Kenny Vaccaro

TA 1

Rec 1

Yards 11

Avg 11

YAC 0

QB rating against 112.5



Raphael Bush

TA 1

Rec 1

Yards 13

Avg 13

YAC 2

QB rating against 118.8



Parys Haralson

TA 1

Rec 0

QB rating against 39.6

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Thanks.
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:11 PM   #25
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Saints have gone 6-7 their last 13 regular season games

There are some serious issues across the board

Talent is there. Is the desire? To many press clippings? Still having a super bowl hang over? you tell me
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Think about this nugget for a bit.

QB ratings throwing against:
Robinson 144.3
Lewis 109.1
White 87.3
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Think about this nugget for a bit.

QB ratings throwing against:
Robinson 144.3
Lewis 109.1
White 87.3
Like I said, Corey white started when Greer went down last season and we ended the year with #2 pass D, why change that?

Also shows our pass rush is not hitting home, we collapse the pocket but allow the QB to escape and he has about 10 seconds to pass before anyone gets there
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Re: Week 2 NO/Cle grades (reality check)

We're 0-2 on the road, we have 6 road games left.

If we go 3-3 in those road games and 8-0 at home, we're right at 11-5, which is where everyone thought we'd be.

If we go 7-1 at home (more reasonable) we'll have to go 4-2 in our remaining road games against Dallas, Detroit, Carolina, Tampa, Pittsburgh, and Chicago. to get to 11-5

Obviously we'll have to remove our head from our ass in order to do that, but I can see us beating 4 of those teams.
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We're 0-2 on the road, we have 6 road games left.

If we go 3-3 in those road games and 8-0 at home, we're right at 11-5, which is where everyone thought we'd be.

If we go 7-1 at home (more reasonable) we'll have to go 4-2 in our remaining road games against Dallas, Detroit, Carolina, Tampa, Pittsburgh, and Chicago. to get to 11-5

Obviously we'll have to remove our head from our ass in order to do that, but I can see us beating 4 of those teams.
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I think a home game will help with the confidence of this team as it seems to be sorely lacking unlike the pre-season when it appeared they would be world-beaters. Although it was pre-season so theres that. I think we can win out. The Vikings got exposed by a good Patriots team but also without AP. Then we have Dallas on the road. We seem to play relatively well there as far As road games go. Though they always seem to keep in contention Then we have the Bucs who are basically the same team as they have been since 2011 and we play them at home where i believe we have outscored them by like a total of 70 points the last two times they visited. We could go into the bye with a winning record and after that i believe the coaching errors will cease to a minimum. I'd rather be good in November/December/January than now. Hopefully that won't be too late.
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