Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?

Mardigras9 · 09-17-2014, 12:07 PM

This team can definitely still go starting at 0-2, no question. They are going drop 60 this sunday. Even the defense can't screw up that kind of production.............hopefully.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-17-2014, 12:19 PM

My thought is that we lost 2 games on the road by less than 3 points holding a lead inside the last 2 minutes of each game. Also the team scored a grand total of 58 points in those games.

Literally each game turned on a total of 2-3 plays each.

Now are the Saints exhibiting problems? Absolutely. The defense is a sieve and the offense both makes mistakes at critical times and do not seem to have a good game plan for the 4 minute offense at the end of games.

But I think there is a huge overreaction to not meeting the expectation of being 2-0 at this point. When the offense makes a few less mistakes and the defense makes a few more stops, then this sputtering start will soon be forgotten.

SFIAH

BusDriver · 09-17-2014, 12:25 PM

8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-17-2014, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks?

So what you are saying is that the team has pretty much blown its losing buffer and has to go 13-1 for the rest of the season or it's a total loss?

If you really feel that way I guess it's time to start talking about the draft in mid September. And who we need in free agency. And who the next DC is going to come in a resurrect the Dome Patrol. BTW, that's sarcasm.

The season may in fact be lost. But that isn't today. Playoff seeding doesn't even make sense until about week 10, and isn't generally clear at all until week 14 or 15. If after 15 weeks, the team is below 500, then I could understand the sentiment above. But it's week 2.

SFIAH

TheOak · 09-17-2014, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks?

From purely a record of 8-8 perspective these teams have made it to the playoffs.
1990 New Orleans Saints: Lost 16-6 to Chicago in wild card game
1991 New York Jets : Lost 17-10 to Houston in wild card game
1999 Dallas Cowboys : Lost 27-10 to Minnesota in wild card game
1999 Detroit Lions : Lost 27-13 to Washington in wild card game
2004 Minnesota Vikings: Beat Green Bay 31-17 (lost 27-14 to Philadelphia in divisional round)
2004 St. Louis: Beat Seattle 27-20 (lost 47-17 to Atlanta in divisional round)
2005 New York Giants : Lost to Carolina 23-0 in wild card game
2008 San Diego Chargers : Beat Indianapolis 23-17 (lost 35-24 to Pittsburgh in divisional round)
2011 Denver Broncos : Won AFC West (three-way tie)

Saintaintso · 09-17-2014, 01:07 PM

Well hold on a second. I remember a statistic about the #1 seed rarely making itt o the superbowl when we and peytons colts made it there. I think your record is very vindictive on how good you are , but do not dismiss a team littered with losses making the playoffs.

07 Giants were lucky they made it at all
10 Packers were very similar to our team now.

Perhaps we were destined to split in Atlanta and drop a headscratcher or two on the road. We always do anyways. Looks like were taking our lumps early which feels bad , but itz demands we take a microscopic look at our team. The Atlanta and Cleveland losses may ensure that we dont commit the same errors come January. And to be honest , if there were a good time for us to correct Robinson or even lose Ingram for a few weeks it would be now , not when we host the Cardinals in the playoffs

halloween 65 · 09-17-2014, 01:11 PM

I wouldn't care what our record would be to get into the playoffs, as long as we were on fire when the time come. We can beat anyone when we are clicking on all cylinders, homefield advantage or not. We do still have to put up some wins to get there though!!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-17-2014, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by BusDriver

8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season.

8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think?

And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year.

The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable.

SFIAH

BusDriver · 09-17-2014, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think?

And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year.

The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable.

SFIAH

I believe the past 2 seasons Payton was 16-0 at home, so why not make it 3 years running? It is all speculation on my behalf but real possible. Also I agree they should be able to win anywhere, losing just sucks.

Rugby Saint II · 09-18-2014, 10:10 AM

I would love for the team to pick themselves up and dust themselves off. Home would be the place to do just that.
Rise up..............oh wait, that's taken.

09-17-2014, 12:07 PM	#11
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? This team can definitely still go starting at 0-2, no question. They are going drop 60 this sunday. Even the defense can't screw up that kind of production.............hopefully.

09-17-2014, 12:19 PM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? My thought is that we lost 2 games on the road by less than 3 points holding a lead inside the last 2 minutes of each game. Also the team scored a grand total of 58 points in those games. Literally each game turned on a total of 2-3 plays each. Now are the Saints exhibiting problems? Absolutely. The defense is a sieve and the offense both makes mistakes at critical times and do not seem to have a good game plan for the 4 minute offense at the end of games. But I think there is a huge overreaction to not meeting the expectation of being 2-0 at this point. When the offense makes a few less mistakes and the defense makes a few more stops, then this sputtering start will soon be forgotten. SFIAH Utah_Saint likes this.
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09-17-2014, 12:25 PM	#13
BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? 8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season. Utah_Saint likes this.

09-17-2014, 12:37 PM	#14
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? Originally Posted by NOLA54 It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks? So what you are saying is that the team has pretty much blown its losing buffer and has to go 13-1 for the rest of the season or it's a total loss? If you really feel that way I guess it's time to start talking about the draft in mid September. And who we need in free agency. And who the next DC is going to come in a resurrect the Dome Patrol. BTW, that's sarcasm. The season may in fact be lost. But that isn't today. Playoff seeding doesn't even make sense until about week 10, and isn't generally clear at all until week 14 or 15. If after 15 weeks, the team is below 500, then I could understand the sentiment above. But it's week 2. SFIAH
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09-17-2014, 12:53 PM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? Originally Posted by NOLA54 It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks? From purely a record of 8-8 perspective these teams have made it to the playoffs. 1990 New Orleans Saints: Lost 16-6 to Chicago in wild card game 1991 New York Jets : Lost 17-10 to Houston in wild card game 1999 Dallas Cowboys : Lost 27-10 to Minnesota in wild card game 1999 Detroit Lions : Lost 27-13 to Washington in wild card game 2004 Minnesota Vikings: Beat Green Bay 31-17 (lost 27-14 to Philadelphia in divisional round) 2004 St. Louis: Beat Seattle 27-20 (lost 47-17 to Atlanta in divisional round) 2005 New York Giants : Lost to Carolina 23-0 in wild card game 2008 San Diego Chargers : Beat Indianapolis 23-17 (lost 35-24 to Pittsburgh in divisional round) 2011 Denver Broncos : Won AFC West (three-way tie)
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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? Well hold on a second. I remember a statistic about the #1 seed rarely making itt o the superbowl when we and peytons colts made it there. I think your record is very vindictive on how good you are , but do not dismiss a team littered with losses making the playoffs. 07 Giants were lucky they made it at all 10 Packers were very similar to our team now. Perhaps we were destined to split in Atlanta and drop a headscratcher or two on the road. We always do anyways. Looks like were taking our lumps early which feels bad , but itz demands we take a microscopic look at our team. The Atlanta and Cleveland losses may ensure that we dont commit the same errors come January. And to be honest , if there were a good time for us to correct Robinson or even lose Ingram for a few weeks it would be now , not when we host the Cardinals in the playoffs SaintFanInATLHELL and Utah_Saint like this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? I wouldn't care what our record would be to get into the playoffs, as long as we were on fire when the time come. We can beat anyone when we are clicking on all cylinders, homefield advantage or not. We do still have to put up some wins to get there though!! SaintFanInATLHELL and Danno like this.

09-17-2014, 01:16 PM	#18
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? Originally Posted by BusDriver 8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season. 8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think? And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year. The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable. SFIAH

09-17-2014, 04:36 PM	#19
BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL 8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think? And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year. The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable. SFIAH I believe the past 2 seasons Payton was 16-0 at home, so why not make it 3 years running? It is all speculation on my behalf but real possible. Also I agree they should be able to win anywhere, losing just sucks.

09-18-2014, 10:10 AM	#20
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