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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It\'s time for the Saints to put up or shut up. Coach Haz will get a hell of alot better send off if he takes the Saints to the playoffs. Does everyone see the teams that will make it for ...

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:52 PM   #11
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I am in shock.

It\'s time for the Saints to put up or shut up. Coach Haz will
get a hell of alot better send off if he takes the Saints to the playoffs. Does everyone see the teams that will make it for the NFC Packers, Vikings, Falcons, Eagles, Seahawks and hoepfully the Saints. Lets face it anyone of these teams could make it to the superbowl and why not us.
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:28 PM   #12
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I am in shock.

Shoot, I\'m game for anything if they go 2-0 these last two games and get in great. If not we shouldn\'t be dissappointed it\'s what we expected of em in the first place. If all we expect is nagative we will get negative. However, eventhough the D has played well the last two weeks, I\'m still first in line to hand VENTURI his doggone pink slip. Get him out of here please. Also i would love to 1 the first round and then knock phily or atl out the second round. Until then win out fellas..

Stecker is a dawg.. I would say his job was riding on that fumble. Lets just say we got something with him, He does well under pressure... damn to bad he isnt a QB .. put me in coach im ready to play!!!
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:38 PM   #13
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I am in shock.

Truly. Is it really this easy for us to be sucked in? This easy? Can anyone tell me please how many 4 game winning streaks we have had under Haslett? 3 games? We had a two game winning streak earlier this year, can anyone tell me what happened after that? When we played winless Arizona and winless Tampa Bay?
Fans of this team are so disheartened by years of defeat that they happily accept mediocrity. It infuriates me too Whoodi, but that\'s the way it is. It will always be this way in NO. Doesn\'t matter that Haslett has never had a season where he didn\'t start or end 3-5 or worse. Doesn\'t matter that only Arizona, Cleveland, and Cincinnati (up until recently) are the only franchises willing to accept .500 and no playoffs for 4 straight years b/c the team wins 2 or 3 games in December. Everywhere else that\'s an outrage. Arizona, Cincy, Cleveland, Seattle, and NO, maybe add Detroit or Chicago... that\'s the company we\'re in. Pathetic, but there are always excuses, every year there\'s excuses, excuses, excuses. It\'s not the coach it\'s the players... who picked the players? Nevermind that, nobody could have predicted all these players would be busts... actually, the scouting reports suggested it... well the coach is just unlucky, that\'s it, blame it on lady luck. Whatever. Don\'t be surprised when the Saints \"rebuild\" the entire defense this offseason with second and third tier players, preach that this is the best team ever in training camp, stumble and bumble to 8-8, and then you hear the same people next year suggesting that it\'s still not time for change - that Haslett really isn\'t the one to blame.

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Old 12-20-2004, 03:58 PM   #14
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I am in shock.

BNB gave me the whipped dog scenario a week or so ago, and it fits well. I hope everyone enjoys these moments of euphoria they are enjoying right now and hope I can join in come January. But I am not holding my breath as the track record is not good.
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:10 PM   #15
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I\'m not sure any of us are holdin\' our breath whodi. We all wanna be undefeated right now. None of us really know what\'s wrong with the team...some think they do, but none of us really know.

That being said, personally, I could never pull against this team, even if I thought Haz was the worst coach in the history of the NFL (and I don\'t) I\'d still want to see him succeed. I \"hope\" the team figures it out and goes on a little run, and I\'ll be ticked (again) if they don\'t, but I\'m happy after EVERY Saints win...even the ugly ones.

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Old 12-20-2004, 04:19 PM   #16
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There\'s no point in me pulling against them now Saintsfan cause the things I wanted are gone. High draft pick, new coach. Right now, I am muddling in shock that A) Haslett will keep his job B) we screwed ourselves out of a chance at a top flight defensive player and C) history tells me it will be all for nothing. If the last two wins had put us in the playoffs, my head would be in the clouds too. But I have to count on this team to win two IMPORTANT games, when 2 years ago they couldn\'t win one in 3 to get in? Like I said, we will prob beat Atlanta, then drop an egg aginst Carolina. That\'s our M.O. It will be impressive enough that they won 3 in a row, but the big letdown is on the horizon so I am guarding myself form getting my hopes up. More power to you guys who can rise above the pain of recent history going against us.
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Old 12-20-2004, 05:38 PM   #17
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well i agree that more then likely we will come out in one of theese games and just play horrible and get destroyed and we will all be hurt again. i cant blame you for guarding against it. but bro if we can make the playoffs and they somehow win 4 in a row, well man can you imagine finally watching a game in january. that will be so nice
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:04 PM   #18
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And that\'s exactly why Benson is willing to keep Haslett - b/c his fanbase is happy just having a shot, no matter how wild the scenario, at the playoffs - they don\'t actually have to get there.
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:33 PM   #19
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:shrug:

Might as well pull for \'em folks, doesn\'t look like all the wasted breath on here is gonna change anything in the long run.

Haslett\'s gonna stay, probably Brooks and Loomis too, maybe even McCarthy and Venturi (shudder). The hopes of losing out to get that one magical draft pick that would surely rattle the foundations and save our team are dashed. Looks like we\'ll have to watch Derrick Johnson single-handedly turn someone else\'s team around next season...

Hey, are we fans or not? Sure we\'ve all been crushed in similar scenerios for years and years ... but we pulled for \'em then too, huh? I don\'t think they\'ll make it, but if they do they\'ll be just as deserving as any of the other flunkies from the NFC who may slime their way in. Look at the NFC West, for chrissake!

I don\'t necessarily think the fanbase is happy with mediocrity, just used to it. If we were, we wouldn\'t spend inordinate amounts of time on message boards debating, theorizing, etc. on how we could be better. Fact is, mediocrity is what we\'ve had since the beginning of the organization, it\'s what we have now, and it\'s unfortunately what we\'re likely to continue to have. Under this premise, we might as well start attacking Benson, too (I couldn\'t argue).

Oh well. It\'s painful in so many ways to see this again and again, but at the same time it\'s like that bum knee that hurts for so long you eventually get used to it. Call it defensive pessimism: if they make it - we\'re pleasantly surprised. If they don\'t - hey, we didn\'t really expect them to, anyway.
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Old 12-20-2004, 07:04 PM   #20
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I am in shock.

Just so you know, we won 6 games straight under Haslett in his first season with Jeff Blake so that whining about not winning is illogical. Look at it this way. Carolina lost. St. Louis lost. Tampa Bay lost. The Saints have won 2 straight. Of the 3 6-8 teams going for the final wild card spot, we have the momentum.

We beat St. Louis already and play Carolina in 2 weeks. If we can score early, run, and make Vick throw, we will beat Atlanta because our team has comradarie again. St. Louis is probably going to lose the next 2 games even if Philly doesn\'t have T.O.

The Saints have the best receiver in the league this season and Stallworth is on fire. The defense is coming together too. If the Saints can beat Atlanta, who has no reason to win the game since they clinched with home field, we are going to make it to the playoffs.

Fight for our team dammint! We need to support them and give them all of the energy we can.
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