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Mardigras9 09-24-2014 10:35 AM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
Showing how the pressure disrupts Drew's release of the ball and therefore the "arm strength" issue is well presented here.
It also is a blue print for every team we play on how to keep the game within reach.

burningmetal 09-24-2014 06:07 PM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 613658)
No excuses, just facts. We played with backups as well who by the way adjusted well when a new QB (1st round pick) came in.

And I said pleased, as in the way the team played overall not relieved as in there was a way we could have lost.

I know you said pleased, and relieved was my word. Because you said we should be pleased and I found nothing to be pleased with in terms of performance. I outlined why the few backups in the game aren't really dropoffs. We run by committee, so I don't really consider Ingram a starter. More like a co-starter, so that's not big deal unless Khiry goes down too. The other positions you mentioned are all washes. We demoted Patrick Robinson, we weren't missing him. and Lelito and Goodwin are pretty much the same caliber player now. Goodwin just had the edge in experience. He was much better a couple years ago.

Then I look at who we played and what the final score was, and how much we seemed to sleep through 90% of that game, and I'm not particularly impressed. I'd rather win boringly or ugly than to lose, any day. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it was not an impressive performance.

Danno 09-24-2014 06:18 PM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 613755)
I know you said pleased, and relieved was my word. Because you said we should be pleased and I found nothing to be pleased with in terms of performance. I outlined why the few backups in the game aren't really dropoffs. We run by committee, so I don't really consider Ingram a starter. More like a co-starter, so that's not big deal unless Khiry goes down too. The other positions you mentioned are all washes. We demoted Patrick Robinson, we weren't missing him. and Lelito and Goodwin are pretty much the same caliber player now. Goodwin just had the edge in experience. He was much better a couple years ago.

Then I look at who we played and what the final score was, and how much we seemed to sleep through 90% of that game, and I'm not particularly impressed. I'd rather win boringly or ugly than to lose, any day. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it was not an impressive performance.

I can't speak for everyone but I don't think anyone said it was impressive. Most everyone just said it was simply what we should have done. Blowouts are extremely rare in the NFL.

Compared to the 1st two games it was definitely better, and its not like we squeaked out a victory on a last second FG. We were clearly the better team and we won.

Impressive? NO
Improving? ABSOLUTELY

I didn't see a single post that said it was impressive.

Schmohams 09-24-2014 08:09 PM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
Guys the Seahawks were a coin flip away from 1-2. That would have made what was thought to be the 4 best teams in the NFC (Packers, Saints, 49ers, Seahawks) all have losing records. Don't lose faith, we are better than this and our players will step up. WHO DAT

The Dude 09-25-2014 12:26 AM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 613328)
Drews alleged declining arm strength is a myth and always has been a myth.

Arm strength is the last thing to go on an aging QB.

Yea its not noodley at all. He has never been known to have a huge arm, he made his bones being the most accurate QB in the game. I think they have not gone down field more because we lack the burner like we had with Henderson. I think Morgan was supposed to be our field stretcher we needed. Drew may not heave it from endzone to endzone but when there is a speed guy who needs to be accounted for and Brees can carve them up with the bigger guys or PT.

brees84 09-25-2014 08:39 AM

Re: 6 Things That Prove the Saints Were Better than You Think vs the Vikings
 
That vikings safety was always around the football and only mistake he made is Hill TD. He almost picked one deep ball from Drew. It's not arm strenght, sometimes there are no real opportunities.


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