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subguy 09-28-2014 11:16 PM

I have been quiet
 
I only want to say what the hell is wrong with this team. I know last year when everyone was excited about the Big Lebowski I was guarded saying to follow the history, teams figure out his simple schemes quick...could it be this? The offense looks real bad too...maybe worse than the D the past two games. I know we have had many away games but winners don't care. The others in our division are giving us every chance to win the division, which I think we will. We need to figure out the issues soon. I'm out!

RailBoss 09-28-2014 11:18 PM

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O Line ?

Halo 09-28-2014 11:23 PM

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I think the entire team looks undisciplined and unprepared for opponents. Defensive players look out of position, clueless, in the dark, and don't know who is in charge on the field.

Offense is very undisciplined. The dropped passes and fumbles are unacceptably bad. Brees throws an INT per game.

I think this team has no identification, no passion, no emotion and for me it starts at the top - Head Coach, and start moving down from there. I blame Sean Payton almost as much as Rob Ryan. I watch the Drew Brees chants before the game and sorry, but the players do not look fired up. This team lacks confidence at every position.

AlaskaSaints 09-28-2014 11:44 PM

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Deflated

4everSaint 09-28-2014 11:55 PM

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With the exception of Cooks. I feel sorry for him. That kid plays hard. He deserves better.

billyt81 09-28-2014 11:57 PM

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Jimmy Graham is overpaid. Drew Brees is overpaid. Time to restructure.

4everSaint 09-28-2014 11:58 PM

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Colston looks so ****in slow now and doesn't even seen to care. He is dead to me

hagan714 09-29-2014 12:15 AM

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Halo hit it on the head. No fire in the belly. it is like I know I am good and yeah I have been there done that and won that.

no drive to join the greatest teams ever to play

SP got to cute yet agai

Robs D? yeah the nfl knows how to attack it for sure. the 3 safety thing out of need was a cute adjustment but not drafting to fix what brought us to the 3 safety set in the first place was totally stupid. how are those stats piling up for all those draft picks going?

opps sorry i am under a self imposed gag order still. Love what Jack is doing in Denver.

RailBoss 09-29-2014 12:20 AM

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I swear before the fake punt I was expecting an Onside Kick!

Halo 09-29-2014 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 614778)
I swear before the fake punt I was expecting an Onside Kick!

I think Alaska said it earlier.... why fake punt rather than go for it on 4th?
I mean seriously, would you rather Morestead throw the ball or Drew Brees?

If Hill was wide open on the play, do we know that Morestead would actually hit him? I'd much rather Drew and our offense try that.

That play was pure suicide and again was poorly timed, in the wrong field position to risk it while we were only down 14 points with 7:30 left. We gave it away.

DrewDat 09-29-2014 12:25 AM

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We're trying too hard to be balanced!!!!...we have more success doing what we do best PASSING....Defense is different...I know the line isn't as good as last season but we HAVE to get another corner out there...being cheap with these less than average bums ain't helping....White Admitted he rather play the slot corner so why start him...Dixon and SJB got destroyed in the preseason...Asante Samuel and Champ are still free agents we need one of them

ClintSaints 09-29-2014 12:34 AM

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Sean Payton has become predictable and it's not even that exciting to watch our offense anymore. How about an occasional designed run for Drew Brees? And the one time, there was an exciting play tonight - i.e. the fake punt - we looked like the Keystone Kops out there.

We really suck so far and we only have ourselves to blame.

|Mitch| 09-29-2014 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ClintSaints (Post 614783)
Sean Payton has become predictable and it's not even that exciting to watch our offense anymore. How about an occasional designed run for Drew Brees? And the one time, there was an exciting play tonight - i.e. the fake punt - we looked like the Keystone Kops out there.

We really suck so far and we only have ourselves to blame.

I agree, except for the designed run for Brees... He's not that kind of QB, no way do I want our 100 million quarterback taking those intentional risks.

But it seems we run the same runs to the left and the same exact screens. In fact, tonight we ran the same exact screen twice in a row, once to the left and than right after to the right...

I recognized it when it happened, so I know the Cowboys D did(the left to Cadet got 8, but the next one to Cooks went nowhere)...

DrewDat 09-29-2014 12:43 AM

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I don't buy blaming SP...Brees been one of the most consistent QB's in the past 5 seasons....Our weakness has always been the defense..our SUPERBOWL year we had an above average corner (Porter) a shut down corner (Greer) with Sharper roaming freely...Now we have a corner getting picked on every game...and trying to use a run game that's just not working

RailBoss 09-29-2014 12:46 AM

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It was bad! not even close! Morestead looked scared to death.

saintsfan403 09-29-2014 12:56 AM

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In know way whatsoever have I been upset with Khiry Robinson but I miss Ingram. He just runs with a mean streak that. As for everything else, I'm waiting till after we have a home stand before I really tear into this team. Were always good for some bad road losses and we still finished 11-5 last year.

WhoDat2301 09-29-2014 01:09 AM

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We need someone new to call the plays SP is calling them flat and that fake punt was garbage at best. After that play I told my boss we deserve to lose. I think we should turn it over to PC.

|Mitch| 09-29-2014 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 (Post 614796)
We need someone new to call the plays SP is calling them flat and that fake punt was garbage at best. After that play I told my boss we deserve to lose. I think we should turn it over to PC.

fake punts are Greg McMahons job I believe... Or atleast that's who I'm blaming the poor execution on

leilung 09-29-2014 01:33 AM

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It was glaringly obvious that Brees cannot throw the long ball. The largest portion of routes are reliant on him being able to get the ball out of his hands quickly. Yet time and again, we all see him tap dancing in the pocket and waiting. Deep receivers are being under thrown with regularity now and it's not a mistake.

Bottom line: #9's shelf life is at an end. Time to groom the heir apparent to take over.

Halo 09-29-2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 614791)
In know way whatsoever have I been upset with Khiry Robinson but I miss Ingram. He just runs with a mean streak that. As for everything else, I'm waiting till after we have a home stand before I really tear into this team. Were always good for some bad road losses and we still finished 11-5 last year.

We finished 11-5 last year because we started 5 and 0.
This year we started 1-3. I'm not trying to poo poo on everyone's parade but not only are the odds against this team making above .500, but the team has no identity or passion whatsoever.

Granted, the NFC South is now the weakest league in the NFC and we could still win and make the playoffs, but considering the basket case team we have, I just don't see it happening.

burningmetal 09-29-2014 05:06 AM

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I couldn't help but notice the Irony of all of the exact things we've been critical of, including particular players on this team, all held true to form a week after I read numerous comments of some sanctimonious fans calling said criticism an over reaction. I wonder what those people think now.

I feel the same way. Irritated, and yet hardly surprised. If you have a clue, you could see through last week's win. There's no excuse for any of this, and there isn't anything you can say other than we are bad. All the pieces are there, but it's almost as if they don't want it. It's easier when you can identify obvious holes and lack of talent. But this is just downright shameful.

saintsfan1976 09-29-2014 05:18 AM

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One of those fans is me.

And yes many comments here were overreactions and there will be more this week.

If you're fishing for an apology, don't hold your breath.

This team just hit rock bottom. Anyone can see that. Anyone can "point out" what's wrong.

I still believe this team is too talented to roll over and die with 12 games left - 5 of those being division games.

Saint_LB 09-29-2014 08:31 AM

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Rob Ryan has brought negative karma. How does he expect his players to g.a.s. if he doesn't appear to g.a.s. about himself.

Mardigras9 09-29-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 614770)
Colston looks so ****in slow now and doesn't even seen to care. He is dead to me

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 614768)
Jimmy Graham is overpaid. Drew Brees is overpaid. Time to restructure.

Wow ??

I could MAYBE see the Graham one. But come on, Brees and Colston?

Our defense has just been terrible. Our O-line questionable.
How bad did Minnisota suck? We could easily be 0-4 if Minn had any kind of red zone offense, because even they were moving the ball easily on our D.

Euphoria 09-29-2014 09:45 AM

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Yeah that fake punt was a joke... almost reminds me of the Saints of old.

I also agree look if you are going for it put in your Hall of Fame QB to throw the ball not a punter geez!

There was more innovation on the Cowboys D than the over hyped Saints new innovated/revamped D. What a joke.

billyt81 09-29-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 614856)
Rob Ryan has brought negative karma. How does he expect his players to g.a.s. if he doesn't appear to g.a.s. about himself.

This is silly. Buddy Ryan had a gut too and he coached the 85 Bears D. They carried him not Iron Mike off the field after winning the title. Mike Holmgren, John Madden, more chubby Super Bowl winning coaches. Rob Ryan don't gotta run or tackle. He's gotta get our guys in the right position to get athletes to make plays. He can do that just fine. He was probably able to disguise glaring talent weaknesses last year with cute schemes and teams have figured him out YES. Eventually you need talent and we have below average LBs, one starting CB and maybe two good D-lineman(Hicks, Cam) and I said it last year, Vaccarro-way overrated-Bush is better.


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