The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them

|Mitch| · 10-01-2014, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Bottom line: if the Saints could rush the passer like they did in 2013 this article wouldn't exist and the Saints would be 4-0.

That's Bill Johnson's job; he's the D-Line coach...

FinSaint · 10-01-2014, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter

How about a G or a T with the 1st. According to the eyeball-test, Evans has lost a step or two with the recent injuries and Harris as the initial T depth didn't seem too good either.

Utah_Saint · 10-02-2014, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Trash article...

I started laughing at the "Safety wasn't exactly the most pressing need", anyone who has actually watched the Saints play could argue it was absolutely the most pressing need and has been for some time now.

Bottom line: if the Saints could rush the passer like they did in 2013 this article wouldn't exist and the Saints would be 4-0.

I always stick up for Harper. But you're right, safety was our biggest weakness last season.

Budsdrinker · 10-02-2014, 09:34 AM

Doesn't matter who we have in the secondary, if the D-line can't put any pressure on QB we're in trouble!

Danno · 10-02-2014, 12:10 PM

Here are the players he listed

Darren Sproles, running back (traded) — Traded for a 5th-round pick. Now ranks 6th in the NFL in total yardage for the Philadelphia Eagles, with three touchdowns.
Malcolm Jenkins, safety (free agency) — Signed with the Eagles for three years, $16.5 million . Has three interceptions in four games and a touchdown.
Lance Moore, wide receiver (cut) — Signed with Pittsburgh. Injured for much of training camp but he's making his way back.
Brian de la Puente, center (free agency) — Signed with Chicago. Started three of four games.
Roman Harper, safety (cut) — Signed with Carolina. Started all four games, with one touchdown.

We did not downgrade at any position listed above.

You could argue Sproles, but we have the #3 Offense in the NFL so I think his loss has not hurt us at all.

And without a doubt not one of these losses are "haunting" us right now, and I actually like every player he listed.

QBREES9 · 10-02-2014, 12:50 PM

He won us a Super Bowl. Yeah it hurts. But OUCH.

FinSaint · 10-02-2014, 03:41 PM

The number of times Jenkins' performances frustrated me during these past years - I don't miss his presence even if he had 16 TDs this season.

Harper, on the other hand, wasn't a bad performer, but he was a bit too one dimensional for the way the game is played nowadays.

triman · 10-02-2014, 04:26 PM

IMHO this thread is nonsense. We made good moves in free agency and the draft. The problem is.as.a.team we are not playing to our potienal. Missing BIG JOHN in the middle.We gambled on a Hall of fame CB and lost ,our former.1st rd CB flopped. We have a serious hole at CB. Colston has been awful No one can tackle.

FinSaint · 10-02-2014, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by triman

No one can tackle.

This reminds me of a certain #27 who was named in the aforementioned article, and one of the reasons I'm not sad he's gone.

WillSaints81 · 10-03-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015

Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks

But after signing Bird I do not see anything this big happening. But we are talking Mickey here so you never know.

A move like this would allow you work on other areas of the defense. both CB on an island 80% of the time

come on Drew really redo that contract.

Cap friendly extension all around for every one

He needs the money for over 100 diapers to change a week.

10-01-2014, 10:41 PM	#21
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by blackangold Bottom line: if the Saints could rush the passer like they did in 2013 this article wouldn't exist and the Saints would be 4-0. That's Bill Johnson's job; he's the D-Line coach...

10-01-2014, 10:58 PM	#22
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter How about a G or a T with the 1st. According to the eyeball-test, Evans has lost a step or two with the recent injuries and Harris as the initial T depth didn't seem too good either. Utah_Saint likes this.

10-02-2014, 12:04 AM	#23
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by blackangold Trash article... I started laughing at the "Safety wasn't exactly the most pressing need", anyone who has actually watched the Saints play could argue it was absolutely the most pressing need and has been for some time now. Bottom line: if the Saints could rush the passer like they did in 2013 this article wouldn't exist and the Saints would be 4-0. I always stick up for Harper. But you're right, safety was our biggest weakness last season.

10-02-2014, 09:34 AM	#24
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Doesn't matter who we have in the secondary, if the D-line can't put any pressure on QB we're in trouble! Danno and RailBoss like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Here are the players he listed Darren Sproles, running back (traded) — Traded for a 5th-round pick. Now ranks 6th in the NFL in total yardage for the Philadelphia Eagles, with three touchdowns. Malcolm Jenkins, safety (free agency) — Signed with the Eagles for three years, $16.5 million . Has three interceptions in four games and a touchdown. Lance Moore, wide receiver (cut) — Signed with Pittsburgh. Injured for much of training camp but he's making his way back. Brian de la Puente, center (free agency) — Signed with Chicago. Started three of four games. Roman Harper, safety (cut) — Signed with Carolina. Started all four games, with one touchdown. We did not downgrade at any position listed above. You could argue Sproles, but we have the #3 Offense in the NFL so I think his loss has not hurt us at all. And without a doubt not one of these losses are "haunting" us right now, and I actually like every player he listed.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them He won us a Super Bowl. Yeah it hurts. But OUCH.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them The number of times Jenkins' performances frustrated me during these past years - I don't miss his presence even if he had 16 TDs this season. Harper, on the other hand, wasn't a bad performer, but he was a bit too one dimensional for the way the game is played nowadays. Danno likes this.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them IMHO this thread is nonsense. We made good moves in free agency and the draft. The problem is.as.a.team we are not playing to our potienal. Missing BIG JOHN in the middle.We gambled on a Hall of fame CB and lost ,our former.1st rd CB flopped. We have a serious hole at CB. Colston has been awful No one can tackle. saintfan, Danno and Utah_Saint like this.
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10-02-2014, 11:02 PM	#29
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by triman No one can tackle. This reminds me of a certain #27 who was named in the aforementioned article, and one of the reasons I'm not sad he's gone.

10-03-2014, 04:45 PM	#30
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015 Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks But after signing Bird I do not see anything this big happening. But we are talking Mickey here so you never know. A move like this would allow you work on other areas of the defense. both CB on an island 80% of the time come on Drew really redo that contract. Cap friendly extension all around for every one He needs the money for over 100 diapers to change a week.

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