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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by blackangold Brees does need some coaching from Payton, but one thing Payton can't fix is that weak ass arm he is dealing with. Have we seen any long throws this year? I dont mean long as in ...

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Old 10-05-2014, 06:30 PM   #21
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Re: 2-3 going into the bye week; 1 game back of division lead

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Brees does need some coaching from Payton, but one thing Payton can't fix is that weak ass arm he is dealing with. Have we seen any long throws this year? I dont mean long as in YAC I mean bombs that actually work.

I didn't want to believe the people saying Brees has lost it. I even defended him before the season, but now it's hard to deny that Brees just can't throw the deep ball anymore.
I don't think it's a weak arm. Drew has been throwing behind the receivers for a year or two now. Even when we're on the 5-10 yard line and he's throwing into the end zone he routinely throws it well behind the receivers.
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And so could Tampa
I just went back and looked, you're dead on. They have only been blown out once and every other game they were in with a shot. Damn...
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:55 PM   #23
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I don't think it's a weak arm. Drew has been throwing behind the receivers for a year or two now. Even when we're on the 5-10 yard line and he's throwing into the end zone he routinely throws it well behind the receivers.
He has never been this inaccurate throwing the deep ball.

you can see from this that between 09-11 Brees was the best at the deep ball: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-deep-passing/

But this year that Big PA and slugo seem route have not been there.
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:11 PM   #24
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He did throw a lot of passes and he also seldom throws deep anymore. His muscle memory of force is off and his arm was also tired is how I see it.

Granted, he doesn't have a cannon but he can still chuck it mighty far enough if needed. We've had gunslingers before. They sucked. Can't have it all folks.
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His arm looks exactly the same as it always has. He has always under thrown most of his deep throws
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I don't think it's a weak arm. Drew has been throwing behind the receivers for a year or two now. Even when we're on the 5-10 yard line and he's throwing into the end zone he routinely throws it well behind the receivers.
He's become Captain Checkdown. I think he's arm has become weaker the past few years but with his accuracy, he should be able to get away with it and he hasn't. Let's use Peyton for example. His arm strength is not there anymore either but he makes it up with outstanding ball placement and timing. Arm strength shouldn't be an excuse for guys like Peyton and Drew. Drew needs to get his mind in the right place and be smart with the football. Get back to what makes him an elite quarterback. Precision, timing, and making smart decisions.
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His arm looks exactly the same as it always has. He has always under thrown most of his deep throws
I agree with this. He was never hitting receivers in stride on the deep balls. He just was extremely accurate, made tremendous decisions, had tons of time, and would throw the ball to anybody on the field. Now it's Graham or the other team.
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I just went back and looked, you're dead on. They have only been blown out once and every other game they were in with a shot. Damn...
Tampa shot themselves in the foot several times today and could have won. Our defense and overall lack of a pass rush concerns me.
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The boneheaded INT"s and Pick6s are killing this team. I heard Payton ripped him a new one today and he began to throw the ball away after that. True?
I read in the recap on ESPN that Payton did in fact have some choice words for Drew - I believe at some point when we were down two scores. I'm sure we'll hear more about it. I know I'm interested.

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Maybe in practice our receivers are a step slower -- so Drew under throws to compensate? I do not buy the arm strength BS. Anyway, message delivered from the haters. I hope he throws a 35+ yarder to Meach against DET and STHU.
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