Saints / Lions Injury Report

Danno · 10-17-2014, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin'

True, and I don't see Cooks as the "dump off" guy at all. Most of his catches are because the play was designed to target him.

blackangold · 10-17-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown?

Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3
Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1
Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1
Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1
Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1
Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0
Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0
Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2
Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0
Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0
Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0

Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument?

JG has an average of 9.4 targets per game (keep in mind he missed 3 QTRs).

Cooks has an average of 8.2 targets per game and Colston has an average of 7.3.

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument?

because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

AsylumGuido · 10-17-2014, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

Yup, same ratio damn near.

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 06:59 PM

Johnson, an undrafted free agent from Tennessee, could retain his spot on the roster. Payton said the Saints have carried two fullbacks before and Johnson's ability to play on virtually every special teams unit is valuable.

ScottF · 10-17-2014, 08:22 PM

No CJ or Fauria.
Johnson won't be anywhere near 100% if somehow he does play.
Looks like 2 coaches are just playing chess listing Johnson and Graham each as questionable instead of doubtful

blackangold · 10-17-2014, 09:35 PM

Looking forward to Lorig's pass catching ability out of the backfield. I think he will resemble Josh Hill in the open field (i mean that as a compliment). However, we have been doing so well running the ball it's hard to imagine wanting to change that. Typically you don't change things that aren't broken, but we shall see how he does on Sunday against a very stout defense.

SloMotion · 10-18-2014, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

No CJ or Fauria.
Johnson won't be anywhere near 100% if somehow he does play.
Looks like 2 coaches are just playing chess listing Johnson and Graham each as questionable instead of doubtful

That's bad for our TE corps ... now all we're left with is Brandon "Petti-drop" Pettigrew .... best blocking TE on the planet, hands ain't worth a lick,

. I think I recommended him to the FF guys on here after he had a decent season & he ceremoniously went out & laid an egg,

... I don't recommend FF players after that,

.

CJ might be out there as a decoy ... they did it vs Buffalo somewhat. It was painful to watch,

. Personally, I think it's a good idea to sit him and force Stafford into using his other receivers,

.

Fauria was our 'redzone' guy ... I think it was last season where he had something like 5 TDs in his first 7 catches (or his first 7 were TDs?) ... gained a bit of notoriety for his touchdown celebrations ... I personally enjoyed the one at about :30, guess they call it the "gas pedal", I think it looks more like a yard sprinkler, TBH ... did the "Jimmy Graham dunk" vs Tampa Bay, they probably saw enough of that as it is,

.

Joseph fauria detroit lions dance machine - Youtube

spkb25 · 10-18-2014, 10:21 AM

I don't think JG or CJ play. Maybe I am wrong, but I think CJ is still hurt. If he does play no doubt he'll be limited in what he can do. Same with JG.

saintsfan1976 · 10-18-2014, 10:26 AM

If Graham is open, damn right you throw it to him.

10-17-2014, 05:10 PM	#21
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin' True, and I don't see Cooks as the "dump off" guy at all. Most of his catches are because the play was designed to target him. ScottF and AsylumGuido like this.

10-17-2014, 05:54 PM	#22
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown? Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3 Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1 Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1 Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1 Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1 Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0 Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0 Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2 Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0 Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0 Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0 Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument? JG has an average of 9.4 targets per game (keep in mind he missed 3 QTRs). Cooks has an average of 8.2 targets per game and Colston has an average of 7.3.

10-17-2014, 06:38 PM	#23
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by blackangold Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument? because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

10-17-2014, 06:43 PM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument... Yup, same ratio damn near.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Twitter Johnson, an undrafted free agent from Tennessee, could retain his spot on the roster. Payton said the Saints have carried two fullbacks before and Johnson's ability to play on virtually every special teams unit is valuable.
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10-17-2014, 08:22 PM	#26
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report No CJ or Fauria. Johnson won't be anywhere near 100% if somehow he does play. Looks like 2 coaches are just playing chess listing Johnson and Graham each as questionable instead of doubtful SloMotion likes this.

10-17-2014, 09:35 PM	#27
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Looking forward to Lorig's pass catching ability out of the backfield. I think he will resemble Josh Hill in the open field (i mean that as a compliment). However, we have been doing so well running the ball it's hard to imagine wanting to change that. Typically you don't change things that aren't broken, but we shall see how he does on Sunday against a very stout defense.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report I don't think JG or CJ play. Maybe I am wrong, but I think CJ is still hurt. If he does play no doubt he'll be limited in what he can do. Same with JG. SloMotion likes this.

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