Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception

10-22-2014, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

ah yes, and if you notice its not 120 yrds every game.

Average rush yards per game

123.33

My bad that it wasn't exactly 120 yards per game as I was speaking from memory, 174 yards obviously isn't good enough for you because you'll find a fault with anybody that disagrees with you.

Papa Voodoo · 10-22-2014, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

see now you being silly. of course there's other elements that keeps the jets and chiefs out of the mix, like ummmm turnovers, but can you really, really argue the fact that dallas are successful because of their EFFECTIVE running game. its not t nomo like its been in the past throwing 30-40 times a game like our qb is doing (go ahead danno bring me the stat on that). its because when you can hand the ball off to a rb on 3 and 8 and he gets 10 or 11 yrds! c'mon man what can anyone's defense do with that?.... nothing.

Murray is a stud back, but the Dallas O-line is the primary reason why they have an effective running game.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

but the Dallas O-line is the primary reason why they have an effective running game.

Haven't they used their first round pick on O-Line the past three drafts?

dizzle88 · 10-22-2014, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Haven't they used their first round pick on O-Line the past three drafts?

I believe so, Quite a few people laughed when they used their first rounder on a center

Its turned out pretty well for them.

NOLA54 · 10-22-2014, 03:59 PM

There is no way on earth Dallas should be 6-1 & we should be 2-4 yet it is a fact. Teams that were picked to be bad are winning & teams that were picked to go all the way are loosing with the exception of GB. It has been a crazy season so far.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

ok okay if you all think that's enough rushing, go right ahead and keep lying to yourselves.

That's right, we should run 80%-90% of the time... I bet they'd get 200+ yards rushing facing 8-9 in the box on every down.

I wonder if our offense would be any better than #2 in the league that we are now? #2 and our offense needs to get better; how about our #21st ranked defense?!

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

again everyone believe it or not. if dallas keeps rushing the ball the way their doing. WE ALL WILL BE SEEING THEM IN THE SB! i assure you all of this.

I'll take that bet!

ikecomp · 10-22-2014, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

ok okay if you all think that's enough rushing, go right ahead and keep lying to yourselves. i'm not. not when i see backs getting those yards by themselves and we have 4 backs and none of them yet have a 100yrds rushing. some of you will argue the saints never ran the ball like that, but let me erge you all times have changed. the peyton's, the tom brady's of qb's is becoming a thing of the pass and in order to take pressure of your qb that is struggling is to commit to the run game. again take a look at dallas what's working for them?.... ah yes the running game.

I think you're missing the point. No one is saying we don't need to run the ball. We're saying that the rushing yards that we're generating right now is not bad by any standard. The reason you may see other backs going for 100+ a game is because they are the feature back for their team. We don't have a feature back here. We do it by committee. It shouldn't matter where the yards are coming from as long as we get them.

It's also worth mentioning that most of murray's yards come before contact meaning his Oline is making wholes so big that he gets big chunk yardage before he even gets touched. I and every fan here would love to have that type of oline but honestly we don't so hoping for our running backs to get that type of yardage every game isn't going to happen. However, our rushing attack is far from bad.

Just trying to put some perspective on things. We have a lot of problems right now (poor decisions by brees at the worst times, breakdowns in defense at the worst times, poor communication by the defense, slow linebackers, etc) but our rushing attack is fairly low on the list of concerns.

You also neglected to mention how improved Dallas defense is this year which is also a big part of their success. I know they are helped by the run game but last year's defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. This year their defense is actually decent.

jnormand · 10-22-2014, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football. i also was putting up stats (like danno) showing where we had 4 backs combined for less than or slightly over 100yrds rushing. also i'm sorry danno maybe not 85-90% of the time but it sure in the hell seem like it. if you notice we come out throwing the ball. i feel they need to commit more to the run, meaning that they need to work on our run block more. lets get these guys use to run blocking for ingram, cadet, thomas, and robinson. once they do that passing will be better because now when drew goes to our ol and he sees colston one on one or graham in a one on one situation he'll be able to complete more accurately to those guys. right now because the oppsing defense knows our primary role is drew and his pass attack, they blitzing more and often times able to rush only four and still get pressure to drew. coaches please take pressure of these guys by committing to the run game please!

You say a lot of things. But mostly what I read is you trying to blow your own horn and say how you were right all along about something that you weren't necessarily right about.

dizzle88 · 10-22-2014, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

You say a lot of things. But mostly what I read is you trying to blow your own horn and say how you were right all along about something that you weren't necessarily right about.

Bingo!

10-22-2014, 03:44 PM	#11
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ah yes, and if you notice its not 120 yrds every game. Average rush yards per game 123.33 My bad that it wasn't exactly 120 yards per game as I was speaking from memory, 174 yards obviously isn't good enough for you because you'll find a fault with anybody that disagrees with you.
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10-22-2014, 03:47 PM	#12
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx see now you being silly. of course there's other elements that keeps the jets and chiefs out of the mix, like ummmm turnovers, but can you really, really argue the fact that dallas are successful because of their EFFECTIVE running game. its not t nomo like its been in the past throwing 30-40 times a game like our qb is doing (go ahead danno bring me the stat on that). its because when you can hand the ball off to a rb on 3 and 8 and he gets 10 or 11 yrds! c'mon man what can anyone's defense do with that?.... nothing. Murray is a stud back, but the Dallas O-line is the primary reason why they have an effective running game. ikecomp likes this.

10-22-2014, 03:49 PM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo but the Dallas O-line is the primary reason why they have an effective running game. Haven't they used their first round pick on O-Line the past three drafts?

10-22-2014, 03:50 PM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Haven't they used their first round pick on O-Line the past three drafts? I believe so, Quite a few people laughed when they used their first rounder on a center Its turned out pretty well for them.

10-22-2014, 03:59 PM	#15
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,701 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception There is no way on earth Dallas should be 6-1 & we should be 2-4 yet it is a fact. Teams that were picked to be bad are winning & teams that were picked to go all the way are loosing with the exception of GB. It has been a crazy season so far.

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10-22-2014, 04:01 PM	#16
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ok okay if you all think that's enough rushing, go right ahead and keep lying to yourselves. That's right, we should run 80%-90% of the time... I bet they'd get 200+ yards rushing facing 8-9 in the box on every down. I wonder if our offense would be any better than #2 in the league that we are now? #2 and our offense needs to get better; how about our #21st ranked defense?!

10-22-2014, 04:07 PM	#17
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx again everyone believe it or not. if dallas keeps rushing the ball the way their doing. WE ALL WILL BE SEEING THEM IN THE SB! i assure you all of this. I'll take that bet!

10-22-2014, 04:14 PM	#18
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ok okay if you all think that's enough rushing, go right ahead and keep lying to yourselves. i'm not. not when i see backs getting those yards by themselves and we have 4 backs and none of them yet have a 100yrds rushing. some of you will argue the saints never ran the ball like that, but let me erge you all times have changed. the peyton's, the tom brady's of qb's is becoming a thing of the pass and in order to take pressure of your qb that is struggling is to commit to the run game. again take a look at dallas what's working for them?.... ah yes the running game. I think you're missing the point. No one is saying we don't need to run the ball. We're saying that the rushing yards that we're generating right now is not bad by any standard. The reason you may see other backs going for 100+ a game is because they are the feature back for their team. We don't have a feature back here. We do it by committee. It shouldn't matter where the yards are coming from as long as we get them. It's also worth mentioning that most of murray's yards come before contact meaning his Oline is making wholes so big that he gets big chunk yardage before he even gets touched. I and every fan here would love to have that type of oline but honestly we don't so hoping for our running backs to get that type of yardage every game isn't going to happen. However, our rushing attack is far from bad. Just trying to put some perspective on things. We have a lot of problems right now (poor decisions by brees at the worst times, breakdowns in defense at the worst times, poor communication by the defense, slow linebackers, etc) but our rushing attack is fairly low on the list of concerns. You also neglected to mention how improved Dallas defense is this year which is also a big part of their success. I know they are helped by the run game but last year's defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. This year their defense is actually decent.
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10-22-2014, 04:17 PM	#19
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football. i also was putting up stats (like danno) showing where we had 4 backs combined for less than or slightly over 100yrds rushing. also i'm sorry danno maybe not 85-90% of the time but it sure in the hell seem like it. if you notice we come out throwing the ball. i feel they need to commit more to the run, meaning that they need to work on our run block more. lets get these guys use to run blocking for ingram, cadet, thomas, and robinson. once they do that passing will be better because now when drew goes to our ol and he sees colston one on one or graham in a one on one situation he'll be able to complete more accurately to those guys. right now because the oppsing defense knows our primary role is drew and his pass attack, they blitzing more and often times able to rush only four and still get pressure to drew. coaches please take pressure of these guys by committing to the run game please! You say a lot of things. But mostly what I read is you trying to blow your own horn and say how you were right all along about something that you weren't necessarily right about. Danno and dizzle88 like this.

10-22-2014, 04:18 PM	#20
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by jnormand You say a lot of things. But mostly what I read is you trying to blow your own horn and say how you were right all along about something that you weren't necessarily right about. Bingo!

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