Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

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I wonder if Brooks thinks he needs a Mike Vick kind of deal this offseason? If so, we simply have got to deal him. Read the article, the guy's ego is unbelievable.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

I posted that article in the \"just so I can understand the rules\" thread. He calls himself GREAT, and the TEAM is inconsistent and struggling. What a great guy. But I am wrong for not liking him as our qb. Go figure.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

To be perrenial playoff contenders maybe? A trip to the Super Bowl? Maybe even a championship? Oh, I don\'t know Aaron. You tell US what more WE want.

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Stop stop stop. Don\'t give anyone the impression you are fed up with Brooks\' play or you will get labeled. Aaron knows what he is talking about and we should just believe he is great as he says he is despite what he shows on the field. That\'s the illusion.

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LOL whodi. I\'m not a Brooks supporter nor am I a basher. I call it like I see it. If Brooks has a good game, I say he had a good game. If he stunk up the joint, you bet your tailfeathers that I\'m gonna say something. I know he isn\'t all to blame for the demise of the Saints. To say that is completely asanine. I do question however if he is the man to take us to the promised land that we crave so deeply. I don\'t think his calling for a new deal right now is the smartest thing he could do. Maybe he should wait until the Saints season is over to see if he earned it. If the Saints beat the Panthers and make the playoffs, maybe. If the Saints win a couple of playoff games and make it all the way to the Super Bowl asking for a new deal would make more sense. If the Saints WIN the Super Bowl, then by all means, try to break the bank. I just don\'t think he\'s done enough to earn yet another raise or more years.

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I am with you D it up. If anyone chooses to read back, I was actually cheering Brooks for his performance in the Rams game. I was tentatively with him and a follower until the lowlights started racking up. Anyone who follows football knows he is not the only problem for this team by far, but he is a problem that needs to be addressed. His play does not match the salary he is making at all. It is out of proportion. And then for him to have a deluded self image of being not just a good qb, but a great one, I wanna puke. I have to question if he has ever even seen a great qb play or if he is just oblivious to the outside world. If he demands any kind of salary increase or extension, we need to dump him. He hasn\'t earned it. I say if we make it into the playoffs and dare I say past the first round, if he is still having games with a qb rating in the 60s and only getting TDs when receivers take 5 yard passes to the house while he throws 2 INTs, I still wouldn\'t give him a raise. And if he can\'t start a game better than 3-7 for 17 yards in every first quarter of every game, we need to play hardball.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

Guys,

It\'s obvious why he is asking for more money.....he wants out. He has already stated that he wants out and this is a prime opportunity to try to do it. If he aks for more money and doesn\'t get it, he could be traded. If he refuses to play and holds out for more money, then the Saints will have to trade him so they can actually get something for the money that they will be paying him. It\'s just that simple.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

Well, don\'t let the doorknob hit ya.....

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You are correct Geaux. He has wanted out since his \"false love\" remark. He looks, plays, acts, and SPEAKS like a guy playing out the string.

By the way, welcome aboard.

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I\'m sorry...where exactly was the part about wanting more money located? I missed it.

You all seem to be reading this as \"I want more money\" or \"I don\'t want to be here anymore\". I read it and see \"I\'m not so sure they want me to stay around here anymore\". There\'s a difference.

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Brooks\' ego has always been out of hand.
I remember on a Fox television interview a few years ago, Brooks saying that he played with a grudge because he thought he was drafted too late. When asked how he compared to the other qb\'s in that class, he said he was the best. That class includes Donovan McNabb, and Dante Culpepper.
Nobody knows for sure what goes on inside of Brooks\' head, but I think the hamster left the wheel a long time ago.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

its all about me. i did this and i did that. did anyone hear joe montana say any of this. no. get rid of this snotty little ******* right now.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

Hey guys, sorry there hasn\'t been anyone in this thread to support AB yet. You see, I haven\'t posted, but now that I have, the Musketeers should swing in to AB\'s rescue! Go get \'em boys.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

Win or lose I don\'t like the guy. Wonder how much of that ego has been displayed to his teamates on a daily basis and how much does it effect the effort and play of others?

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thats just ridiculious for him to say that. if he wont play for more moeny then goodbye. 6 million a season is plenty for the play we get from him. he is not a great qb and doesnt deserve to be payed like one. if he wants more money stepo it up a notch

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i read the artcile but i dont see it at all meaning he wants more money. nothing even remotely like that. i think what he was saying is if the fans or coaches dont want me ill move on. thats all it was about. nice attempt to make it into more but it really wasnt

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Wait spk, didn\'t you tell me that I bash Brooks in another thread? Are all these other folks bashing Brooks also? did you read the part about him calling himself a \"Great qb\" and the team is struggling and inconsistent? I am just wondering what your thoughts are on out qb, who calls himself great, poo-pooing on the rest of the team.

[Edited on 30/12/2004 by saintswhodi]

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he IS our qb and if ur a fan u should support him also. I know he makes some dumb statements and sometimes dumb plays, but he is probably the best qb we have had. In a round about way he is putting the blame where it belongs....on the o-line. Look at tape from one of these games and see how much longer the qb\'s have to throw. chargers,broncos,panthers, and even the raiders(all day)

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Cant see why he wants out.... with all the fan support and all(sarcastic)

and i am not a brooks lover i am a saints lover and he just happens to be the saints qb!!!

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I support our TEAM Venturi, not just individual players, although I do have my favorites. If a member of this TEAM has delusions of grandeur and a salary that don\'t match his performance, I am not obligated to support that player to the detriment of my team. I feel Brooks is a detriment to the TEAM. Doesn\'t matter if he is my qb. Along those lines, we should all have supported Steve Walsh, both Billy Joes and Heath Shuler no matter how bad they were cause they were our TEAM\'s qb. You can\'t tell me that\'s true can you?

Also having gone to a game where the o-line absolutely was not the problem and Brooks was, I put little stock in a \"leader\" who will throw the rest of his TEAM under the bus. I don\'t want a guy like that collecting a large salary on the TEAM I love.

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

You have hit the right chord there. This guy is NOT a TEAM player. It\'s about AB and nothing else. Now, that said, he is not totally at fault for saying and doing all of this stuff. Remember, Hazlett, Big Mule, & McCarthy stuck by him and made him DA MAN!! over both Blake and Delhomme, and then shipped in Todd(Mr. Inconsistent) Bouman as a \"backup?\" The trouble is is that Brooks honestly believes all of this tripe he\'s serving, because he\'s never had to honestly compete with anyone else for his job. Hazlett was too afraid of a QB controversy and played him hurt. That\'s not AB; that\'s Hazlett and probably McCarthy.

Playoffs or not, this guy needs to be shown the door. Also, before all of you other \"AB DA MAN\" crowd shows up and says: Who will we replace AB with? My answer is: \"I don\'t know, but it has to be better than this!\" San Diego will keep Brees, but there are other interim QB\'s that are coachable and don\'t cause the same mistakes, fumbles, broken plays, fall downs, missed handoffs, poor throws, low throws, throws with lack of touch, inaccurate throws behind or too low for a receiver. That\'s not the O-line. That\'s poor fundamentals by a QB. Period!! We have had 4 miserable, inconsistent, sloppy, lazy years from this slug. I\'m for some new blood. Win or lose, just consistent. :exclam:

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

saintswhodidi i dont want this to be between you and me and this certainly isnt about people on here posting negative comments about brooks. my point was that you stick out in my mind because every time i read one of your post it seems to be about how bad brooks is. im very certain that you post on here without saying anything about brooks. to me though you stuck out at that moment. simple point is you dont like brooks and thats ok. but the major problem on this team wasnt and isnt brooks. he has made some terrible plays this year. he hasnt done what i expected this year. but to always come out about how bad brooks is gets tiring. especially when there are a lot more problems with this team then just one player. we can all agree that deuce is a very good running back. well he still had some very bad games early for us. he was fumbling a lot. so he was at one point this season part of our problems. i dont mind if you want brooks gone and if you want to post how you dont like him. but all the time just gets very tiring

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we should bench him for the last game....

watching him now makes me sick

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the judge thats a nice thought but from what i saw of bouwman in preseason i dont think we have a choice there. if there iws anyone better lets play him. but i dont think we have that choice right now

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The team are inconsistent, look at the lost/wins. Do you expect any qb to think low of themselves? I think I am great person but I am sure they\'re others who think otherwise. RUMORS......someone need to stop spreading them if they can\'t find FACTS, nowhere in the article did I find Brooks saying or implying he want more money. He just feel with the lack of fans and some of the local media support that his job is on the line IMOP, not fact.

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Bottom line...if we win win this week everybody will be on the AB bandwagon

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

Throw under the bus....Riley, Gandy, Jacox

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NOt to mislead anyone... i am not sayin to give ab a new contract..i feel players should honor their contract... i am sayin root for the guy. For instance i am a season ticket holder and they have guys with all saints stuff on rooting against ab, i.e. AB throws ball dropped.....u suck Aaron. Give me a break

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He wants us to pay him for what he as done?? Ok, lets say we sign him to 4 years..... that would mean his first year he wouldn\'t get paid \"JACK\" since he hasn\'t scored in the first quarter since week 2. Same for the second year! Then the last 2 years he would make huge money for all the yards he puts up, but then we could just release him by then because we already started grooming his replacement.

I don\'t believe in paying players for what they have \"DONE\", we need to pay for what they will do (incentives!!!!\")

On that note, I say we give McKensie what he deserves!

Brooks looking for a new deal?
 

How about an incentive type contract.
Pay him about mid-pack base, but major bonus\'s for performance.

Win a SB? Mega-jack!
Play like crap? Don\'t get squat!

If his ego is truly as huge as it seems, he should have no problem with that at all.

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Wow Danno I agree with that 100%. But since that sounds like the contract Master P got for Ricky Williams here, I don\'t think the \"great\" qb AB would sign it. Great idea though.

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.. if you are a true fan, shouldn\'t you support the o-line and the coaches too? Or is it just the QB?

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Why don\'t we pay him in scratchoff tickets, he might get his raise that way. :rollinglaugh:

He needs to prove himself first. He can be good but he\'s to inconsistant.

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I knew we should have never gotten rid of J.T.-- AB knows we are in a bind with BOUMAN on board!

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Brooks has had an off year. There\'s no doubt about it. A lot of it due to playing behind one of the worst O-lines in the league. And he\'s had no running game. There\'s no denying that and if you do ... Then there\'s no use debating this.

On the other hand, Brooks has tried to do too much and made some bone-headed mistakes.

Brooks might still lead us to the playoffs and beyond. Most of you wrote Brooks and this team off long ago. So, if you were wrong about that, then I have a hard time believing you now.

Some of you want Brooks gone and that\'s fine. But, who are we going to replace him with? This ain\'t fantasy football. Just ask Bill Parcells. Who is his starting QB?

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But the Rickey deal was structured as almost a punishment for poor play.

It could be structured to pay AB good money regardless of the incentives. Rickey didn\'t have that. If Aaron plays great, he gets major compensation, if he plays bad he still gets paid pretty good, just not great.

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I asked elsewhere Gumbo but never got an answer so i\'ll ask here again, if this year is an off year cause of EVERYTHING besides Brooks, what happened with the fumbles last year? And the INTS the two years prior? Were those off years too, or was he \"on\" in those years? If he was \"on\" then, I truly shudder to think how bad we will be.

And what happened in the Dallas game? None of your \"reasons\" for Brooks struggling happened and he was still terrible. Did he just have a \"bad game?\" How do we know that is not always gonna be typical of Brooks? And why does he get the benefit of so many just \"bad games\" when if anyone esle around him has one they are responsible for his ineptitude? If you are gonna argue a point, at least show you can see both sides clearly. If you look back, I lauded Brooks after the Rams game cause I was truly impressed by his performance. No game since then has given me a reason to celebrate him as our qb.

But back to your \"everyone else is killing Brooks\" theory. He led the league in turnovers last year and we had one of the best running games in the league. Thoughts? In 2001, he had a passer rating under 80(under 80!!!!!!!) with 22 INTs. Thoughts? In 2002, he had a passer rating of barely 80, 15 INTs. Thoughts? Since everyone is letting him down THIS YEAR, why didn\'t we make the playoffs all those other years when our defense wasn\'t great, but it wasn\'t last in the league either? When our running game was one of the best in the league? Any reasons for those? And I am giving you facts that can be looked up on NFL.com, not mere speculation. Thoguhts?

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I see what you are sayign Danno, and still agree. If we tie the contract into his actual performances, but also penalize for bone-headed mistakes(if that\'s possible), Broosk can actually earn his salary instead of saying \"I\'m a top 5 qb\" and getting a new salary without an ounce of evidence to back that up.

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Brooks has made some knucklehead plays this year(at Chargers, Denver, etc) but he has also shown some signs of leadership. I don\'t think brooks is a Montana like QB but I do think he is very good. His contract should be a reflection of his performance(Ricky Williams first year deal)....
I think our O-line is garbage but I still cheer for them as well as deuce, horn and the rest of the boys.
Bottom line is we have a 3 game winning streak in December with a playoff birth in the picture.....DO WE CHEER FOR THAT????.........Brooks is not God but he is my guy..... :casstet:

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saintswhodi

Brooks is going to make mistakes every year.

Listen up though. SO DOES JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE.

How many interceptions has Delhomme thrown this year. I think it\'s one less than Brooks. And both of their teams have the same record. Does Delhomme get a free pass here.

And what about Mr. Favre, who has thrown more ints than Brooks. And Favre does it just about every year.

Brooks corrected the fumbling for which he gets no credit.

I don\'t think Brooks would have made all the ints if it weren\'t for the terrible O-line play. Hell, Favre and Delhomme have NO excuses for thier mistakes.

I think you just want Brooks gone and you don\'t want to look at the facts.