What play makes you the most nervous with this team?

W. Kovacs · 11-09-2014, 09:22 PM

Here's what scares me the most:

We apparently have a coaching staff incapable of learning from the past.

All freaking game: Anquon Boldin (Sp?) is running free but you continue trying fancy pants sneaky defenses instead of jamming him off the line and punching him in the mouth (metaphorically).

Overtime: 3rd and 2, a RB who has just run for 100 yards, and you call for a pass.

Overtime: Completely abandon the run but don't max protect so they can send the house after our crummy OL and Drew gets a beat down and fumbles.

And this is not the first game this has happened, this is the norm. And it has been for at least the past two years.

I just don't get it.

|Mitch| · 11-09-2014, 09:41 PM

Coverage scares me; I'm lumping the whole secondary in with Vaccaro here, Lewis the exception...

dizzle88 · 11-09-2014, 09:41 PM

Our team has serious issues that continue to haunt us every week

Payton may be the best coach we've had, but we watch our team fail at the same things every week and that starts with him

Doesn't help when Brees throws into triple coverage or Kenny Vaccaro and Corey white both decide to leave a receiver open 50 yards down field on 4th and 10.

dizzle88 · 11-10-2014, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

what about when they come up big? like the turnover they got before half time or in ot, giving us 2 opportunities to win the game and our offense comes up shawt? both teams had big plays on offense they did and we did. big plays go hand and hand. what you didnt see is kap turning the ball over like our beloved drew f'n brees!

The difference is Kaep turned the ball over once, Brees turned it over 3 times - twice inside our own 30 yard line and once in the opponents red zone

Kaepernick may have stalled, but he didn't force any passes and SF played the field position game knowing eventually their defense will come through for them.

halloween 65 · 11-10-2014, 03:47 PM

I voted Brees dropping back, I know int.'s are going to happen but let any player other than Brees turn the ball over that much and he's either benched(yes Payton has a doghouse) or he's a gone pecan!! Maybe a good benching to give a little reflection wouldn't hurt. I would like to see what Griffin can do at least a good look.

Foot Stomper · 11-10-2014, 06:24 PM

I had to vote Drew as well. Floating it out to the flats, throwing into triple coverage, trying to extend a play and doing something dumb. It really is more than I can handle stress wise speaking. Second place was Graham although he has put a decent streak together.

Bro KV · 11-11-2014, 03:28 AM

Empty backfield on 2nd and 2 when the running game is working.

Mr.Riaton · 11-11-2014, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I voted Brees dropping back, I know int.'s are going to happen but let any player other than Brees turn the ball over that much and he's either benched(yes Payton has a doghouse) or he's a gone pecan!! Maybe a good benching to give a little reflection wouldn't hurt. I would like to see what Griffin can do at least a good look.

Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong.

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong.

He had phenomenal protection before the half and still threw the ball into triple coverage.....

Mr.Riaton · 11-11-2014, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

He had phenomenal protection before the half and still threw the ball into triple coverage.....

True,but he had pressure in his face most of the game. That's why pressures can be just as effective as sacks....that will cause any QB to make bad decisions. Look what happened at the end of the game when he trusted his protection....he got hit from behind and fumbled the ball. Your right though,he should have never thrown into triple coverage. I just don't agree with the fans booing him. He's done way too much good to be criticized so harshly for the mistakes he's made. Although he is contributing to our loses,his mistakes are not the reason we are losing games.

View Poll Results: What play makes you the most nervous?
Seeing Shayne Graham line up for a FG?	5	15.15%
Seeing Drew Drop back for a Pass attempt?	10	30.30%
Seeing Vaccaro have deep man responsibility?	18	54.55%
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11-09-2014, 09:22 PM	#11
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Here's what scares me the most: We apparently have a coaching staff incapable of learning from the past. All freaking game: Anquon Boldin (Sp?) is running free but you continue trying fancy pants sneaky defenses instead of jamming him off the line and punching him in the mouth (metaphorically). Overtime: 3rd and 2, a RB who has just run for 100 yards, and you call for a pass. Overtime: Completely abandon the run but don't max protect so they can send the house after our crummy OL and Drew gets a beat down and fumbles. And this is not the first game this has happened, this is the norm. And it has been for at least the past two years. I just don't get it. dizzle88 and teddybarexxx like this.

11-09-2014, 09:41 PM	#12
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Coverage scares me; I'm lumping the whole secondary in with Vaccaro here, Lewis the exception... dizzle88 likes this.

11-09-2014, 09:41 PM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Our team has serious issues that continue to haunt us every week Payton may be the best coach we've had, but we watch our team fail at the same things every week and that starts with him Doesn't help when Brees throws into triple coverage or Kenny Vaccaro and Corey white both decide to leave a receiver open 50 yards down field on 4th and 10. FinSaint likes this.

11-10-2014, 08:22 AM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by teddybarexxx what about when they come up big? like the turnover they got before half time or in ot, giving us 2 opportunities to win the game and our offense comes up shawt? both teams had big plays on offense they did and we did. big plays go hand and hand. what you didnt see is kap turning the ball over like our beloved drew f'n brees! The difference is Kaep turned the ball over once, Brees turned it over 3 times - twice inside our own 30 yard line and once in the opponents red zone Kaepernick may have stalled, but he didn't force any passes and SF played the field position game knowing eventually their defense will come through for them.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? I voted Brees dropping back, I know int.'s are going to happen but let any player other than Brees turn the ball over that much and he's either benched(yes Payton has a doghouse) or he's a gone pecan!! Maybe a good benching to give a little reflection wouldn't hurt. I would like to see what Griffin can do at least a good look.

11-10-2014, 06:24 PM	#16
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? I had to vote Drew as well. Floating it out to the flats, throwing into triple coverage, trying to extend a play and doing something dumb. It really is more than I can handle stress wise speaking. Second place was Graham although he has put a decent streak together.

11-11-2014, 03:28 AM	#17
Bro KV Registered Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 50	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Empty backfield on 2nd and 2 when the running game is working. SaintsBro, W. Kovacs and teddybarexxx like this.
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11-11-2014, 06:16 AM	#18
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,246	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I voted Brees dropping back, I know int.'s are going to happen but let any player other than Brees turn the ball over that much and he's either benched(yes Payton has a doghouse) or he's a gone pecan!! Maybe a good benching to give a little reflection wouldn't hurt. I would like to see what Griffin can do at least a good look. Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong. Rugby Saint II, SaintLeonard and Saint in Aus like this.

11-11-2014, 06:42 AM	#19
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong. He had phenomenal protection before the half and still threw the ball into triple coverage..... teddybarexxx likes this.

11-11-2014, 08:01 AM	#20
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,246	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by dizzle88 He had phenomenal protection before the half and still threw the ball into triple coverage..... True,but he had pressure in his face most of the game. That's why pressures can be just as effective as sacks....that will cause any QB to make bad decisions. Look what happened at the end of the game when he trusted his protection....he got hit from behind and fumbled the ball. Your right though,he should have never thrown into triple coverage. I just don't agree with the fans booing him. He's done way too much good to be criticized so harshly for the mistakes he's made. Although he is contributing to our loses,his mistakes are not the reason we are losing games. dizzle88 likes this.

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