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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It's not the O-line... It's not Brees... It's Payton. I have long said dating back to last year that Payton should not be calling plays and ill stick to that. Pete should be left to do his job, statistically he ...

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Old 11-16-2014, 08:51 PM   #21
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Re: Seriously wanted to help the board out with what you saw today

It's not the O-line... It's not Brees...

It's Payton.

I have long said dating back to last year that Payton should not be calling plays and ill stick to that. Pete should be left to do his job, statistically he is better than Payton and do you remember in 2012 we had the 2nd best offense...

There is no vertical attack to Payton's game, it only comes out of the PA fake and everyone knows it.
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Really you have noticed a drop off from Brees ?
I think in the last two seasons our offensive line has been the worst since drew has been here.
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It's not the O-line... It's not Brees...

It's Payton.

I have long said dating back to last year that Payton should not be calling plays and ill stick to that. Pete should be left to do his job, statistically he is better than Payton and do you remember in 2012 we had the 2nd best offense...

There is no vertical attack to Payton's game, it only comes out of the PA fake and everyone knows it.
2012 we stunk dude and just threw all over the place because we were usually down 20 points by end of the first quarter
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Can't force it deep when teams are playing deep zone defenses against us.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:19 PM   #25
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2012 we stunk dude and just threw all over the place because we were usually down 20 points by end of the first quarter
What's your point?

You also realize Carmichael, not Payton, was the play caller during our 2011 record setting year right?
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Can't force it deep when teams are playing deep zone defenses against us.
Longest completion was for 17 yards if I am not mistaken. Don't think we tried anything deep...

Teams have always played deep zones against us, it's not something new and we have beat it many times before. In the last 2 years we have seen a erosion offensively.
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Longest completion was for 17 yards if I am not mistaken. Don't think we tried anything deep...

Teams have always played deep zones against us, it's not something new and we have beat it many times before. In the last 2 years we have seen a erosion offensively.
Yep, but Colston was a zone killer, he's regressed and crossing patterns kill that zone too but drew doesn't have the extra second or two like he had in previous years for those patterns to develop
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Old 11-17-2014, 05:05 PM   #28
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Probably from the 40 yardline. Pinning them down deep, he's good. And don't correct me if I am wrong, because in my mind it wa from the 40 and we were pinning em down
Sadly not true.
4-5-NO25 (9:56) T.Morstead punts 25 yards to 5However it does not chage the fact - I say Morstead is a good punter.
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Old 11-17-2014, 05:43 PM   #29
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Drops and awful busted coverages. More to do with focus and discipline than talent. I think we have enough talent. At the end of the day though the Division is still open to any team that decides to pull their head out of a general part of their body right now. I still believe we have the ability to do it but another performance like last week and they might as well leave their heads right there.
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We are what are record says we are.... 4-6 Something has to change idk what but even if we do win the division we are 1 and done in the playoffs folks...
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