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Are We Tough Enough?!?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Some kids are on a playground. Another kid from the neighborhood rides his "new" bike up and joins them. A bully walks up, pushes the kid and takes the bike... The fifth play of Sunday's game. 13:14 1st. Simple stretch ...

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Old 11-19-2014, 04:11 PM   #21
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Some kids are on a playground.
Another kid from the neighborhood rides his "new" bike up and joins them.
A bully walks up, pushes the kid and takes the bike...

The fifth play of Sunday's game.
13:14 1st.
Simple stretch run to the right.
Jimmy Graham comes off the line, ready to block Rey Malaluga in the second level. Only Malaluga comes up and pops Graham in the face. No Penalty...
OK I get it, it's football... (never mind the point of emphasis stuff) not tiddlywinks...
But what's worse, is Graham just took it.
He just backed down.
I don't want the guy to get into a fight and get kicked out of the game, but at some point he has to start defending himself.
A few plays later, Iloka takes a shot.
This time a flag, but still no response form Graham.
And what's even worse is no one else form the team came to his defense either.
Listen, Jimmy Graham has played hurt for most of this season. He's earned a lot more respect from me this season. But, there is a difference between being able to stand pain and not letting someone steal your bike.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:25 PM   #22
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You could maybe look at it as Jimmy not taking the bait, since the second guy usually gets called. But I hear what you're saying.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:58 PM   #23
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Have they become complacent?
How many players, coaches etc will not survive.
It seems like we need something new instead of the status quo.
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:51 PM   #24
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Does the kid on his bike have a debilitating shoulder injury the bully just re-aggrevated?
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:37 PM   #25
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Need to bring Dennis Allen back...
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:31 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Marvin Lewis: Penalty for hit on Jimmy Graham was worth it | ProFootballTalk

This article brings me back to a question in my mind...

Are We (The Saints) Tough Enough?!?

Do We Still Have "The Eye of The Tiger"?!?

Are We Truly Hungry?!?
NO
NO
NO

the team and the fans all seem to have come complacent with winning and just expect it.

The fans performance as the 13th man has been poor. then again since the super bowl it has been heading south. got fat and lazy with victory

The fans buying into to press clippings is standard stuff. But to the extent of this year was unreal.

Fans bought into this great turn around when all Rob did was undo what Spags screwed up. Hell a one eyed tailless monkey could have done that.

The defense was sold like a use car. smoke and mirrors. Rob partying New Orleans style does not cut it. All it does is get him fatter.

The offense for the most part has done it's part. the defense is not worth the paper it is written on. Players to blame? yes and no.

The bulk of the issue rest on ROB RYAN shoulders.

Rob got away with murder in my book. this defense has been heading south since teams figured it out last year. new england laid out the blue print.

Robs answer?

nothing at all. no adjustments. nothing.

Just a ton of his draft picks collecting splinters on the bench. Hell Spags at least added players that see the field.

Lack of adjustments to a system that does not work effects players. both on the offense and the defense. wonder how many think to themselves "oh god here we go again."

So are we tough enough? maybe not. but are the players fed up and tired might be the right question to ask.

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We are no better off than the cowboys of a few years back. uniforms have change but the story remains the same.
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Old 11-21-2014, 04:03 AM   #27
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Where is the WTF button? Really?
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Old 11-21-2014, 04:00 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by st thomas View Post
we need to move training camp to the alps, I mean if you going to go to a vacation destination might as well go higher and get even cooler temps for our guys.
My guess is that Sean Payton is very much attracted to the mointains and valleys of WV
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:41 PM   #29
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If you have to ask, you already know the answer. Damn. I hate this season.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:21 PM   #30
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Well, I'd like to present the results of our little, informal poll to Coach and the GM and get their response...
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