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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Sarik Deep(er) positions: RB, Pass Rusher, OT Examples: Pass Rusher(DE/OLB): Randy Gregory - Nebraska Shane Ray - Missouri Shawn Oakman - Baylor Vic Beasley - Clemson Dante Fowler Jr - Florida Alvin Dupree - Kentucky Shilique Calhoun ...

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Old 12-24-2014, 02:41 PM   #111
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Re: 2015 draft??

Originally Posted by Sarik View Post
Deep(er) positions: RB, Pass Rusher, OT

Examples:




Pass Rusher(DE/OLB):

Randy Gregory - Nebraska
Shane Ray - Missouri
Shawn Oakman - Baylor
Vic Beasley - Clemson
Dante Fowler Jr - Florida
Alvin Dupree - Kentucky
Shilique Calhoun - Michigan State
Nate Orchard - Utah
Danielle Hunter - LSU
Lorenzo Mauldin - Louisville
Hauoli Kikaha - Washington
Arik Armstead - Oregon(more of an all around DE)
I would like anyone of the top 4 on this list, and we should be in position to get one of them. After the pass rusher is addressed we need to get a few young and hungry DTs along with early pick(s) at OG.
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Old 12-25-2014, 03:19 AM   #112
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What I Want For Christmas?!? An Outside Linebacker Like This...

Shaq Thompson - UW Ultimate Highlights [BEAST] ᴴᴰ - YouTube
Saints NEED a playmaker like this on D!!!!

Please let's not screw this one up.
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Old 12-25-2014, 07:05 AM   #113
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Can anyone tell me how deep this draft is and at what position is it deepest?

Last year was a deep draft at WR, is there any position like that this time around?

I wonder if trading back is actually the answer.
CB IMO is the deepest i have seen in a long time I believe a starter can be had all the way to to the third. I am talking man cover types. Size speed and attitude

some solid prospects through the 5th. some solid gambles from there on.

Whole bunch the can do that CB to S dance without missing a beat.

this has a good chance of being the year of the CB.
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Old 12-25-2014, 07:27 AM   #114
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What I Want For Christmas?!? An Outside Linebacker Like This...

Shaq Thompson - UW Ultimate Highlights [BEAST] ᴴᴰ - YouTube
might just be the best football player in the draft. starting SS? that would make a ton of sense. side line to side line speed and keep him in the action. He has played it before and I bet he would lead this team in tackles season 1. at 61, 237 4.56 he can either be an under sized OLB or a massive safety with solid speed. take your pick. all i know is i feel comfortable in saying he is a better SS and cover guy than kenny coming out of college.

fluid movement dropping back into coverage.
solid one-on-one match ups with tight ends

the kenny test this year was a flop. he is not a true SS so do not be surprised by a safety pick. we do not have a starter at that position and we all know we love safeties. solid back ups but a starter?

want to get the most out of the Byrd signing get him some help back there. Then add a CB or two in rounds 2 or 3 or 4. talent is there. all better prospects than SJB. I am betting he would have fallen into the 4/5 or 5/6 range this year.

with him on the field it would be like having 4 LB at all times vs this freaking 3 or 4 so so safety look we have now.

He is the freak or premier athlete in the draft without all the hyped upside or what if crap surrounding him. he is what he is. a freaking football player that you can get your money out of in more ways than 90% of the players on the saints today. RB LB SS special teams. he can open up a few rosters spots with his pick alone.

Shaq as a SS/LB type sealing up the middle of the field.

i like the the mix.

been waiting for his name to pop up.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:28 PM   #115
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Wouldn't be the first time the Saints decision makers screwed the pooch in the draft, but I've come to expect disappointment from this regime in the draft; as good as they are gameday, the suck it on draft day...
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Old 12-25-2014, 07:49 PM   #116
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I was all about Vic Beasley but the more I read about Shaq Thompson the more I like him. I see people saying his best fit is at weakside OLB in a 4-3... So would we think about replacing Hawthorne with Thompson at the ILB position? I'm sure he could line up as an edge rusher too in a base 3-4. I don't know, but I do like the versatility.
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I was all about Vic Beasley but the more I read about Shaq Thompson the more I like him.
+1. There are studs out there .... even up in the Pacific Northwest (Shaq). We need to really scout these guys hard and make a good decision on draft day.

Like I have said many times, the next Luke Kiechly is out there but we (talent evaluators) have to do a better job of finding them.
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Old 12-25-2014, 08:26 PM   #118
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If he can't fit in a 3-4 then he should not be drafted.
That's what I was kind of curious about where his fit would be in a 3-4 and the 4-2-5. It sounds like he has to be the weakside ILB.
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might just be the best football player in the draft. starting SS? that would make a ton of sense. side line to side line speed and keep him in the action. He has played it before and I bet he would lead this team in tackles season 1. at 61, 237 4.56 he can either be an under sized OLB or a massive safety with solid speed. take your pick. all i know is i feel comfortable in saying he is a better SS and cover guy than kenny coming out of college.

fluid movement dropping back into coverage.
solid one-on-one match ups with tight ends

the kenny test this year was a flop. he is not a true SS so do not be surprised by a safety pick. we do not have a starter at that position and we all know we love safeties. solid back ups but a starter?

want to get the most out of the Byrd signing get him some help back there. Then add a CB or two in rounds 2 or 3 or 4. talent is there. all better prospects than SJB. I am betting he would have fallen into the 4/5 or 5/6 range this year.

with him on the field it would be like having 4 LB at all times vs this freaking 3 or 4 so so safety look we have now.

He is the freak or premier athlete in the draft without all the hyped upside or what if crap surrounding him. he is what he is. a freaking football player that you can get your money out of in more ways than 90% of the players on the saints today. RB LB SS special teams. he can open up a few rosters spots with his pick alone.

Shaq as a SS/LB type sealing up the middle of the field.

i like the the mix.

been waiting for his name to pop up.
Really can't agree with anything you said...

First, your trying to convert a LB/RB to a SS... I don't know where to start with that, because we have had such great success developing talent in the past right...

Secondly, there is no need for a true SS because the league is moving away from them all together. Furthermore we have 3 tremendous safeties on the roster already with Byrd, Warren and Bush. Byrd and Warren should start and Bush would be a great backup if one gets hurt; both Byrd and Warren tackle and play the run well so there is no need for a true SS.

Lastly, I really hope we don't take on any hybrid type players. Vaccaro is that type of player and we don't know how to manage them. The Saints organization is extremely poor at developing talent on the defensive side so it's important we are drafting players that have a defined role and can start day one.

I really dislike the prospect of Shaq for our team.
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Old 12-26-2014, 07:41 AM   #120
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That's what I was kind of curious about where his fit would be in a 3-4 and the 4-2-5. It sounds like he has to be the weakside ILB.
He appears to be an amazing fit at linebacker in the 4-2-5, covering all that space with his speed, quickness...

And in the 3-4, it'd be shutdown on his side for sure...
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