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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Not sure we need much depth at Guard unless Kelemete or Lelito get the starting job. We 100% need some depth at tackle which is why if Collins or Scherff are there i think they are a must. Take them ...

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Old 03-15-2015, 10:41 AM   #571
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Not sure we need much depth at Guard unless Kelemete or Lelito get the starting job. We 100% need some depth at tackle which is why if Collins or Scherff are there i think they are a must. Take them play them inside and if one of the tackles goes down you have a man that can start at tackle while slotting Lelito or Kelemete in at guard
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Not sure we need much depth at Guard unless Kelemete or Lelito get the starting job. We 100% need some depth at tackle which is why if Collins or Scherff are there i think they are a must. Take them play them inside and if one of the tackles goes down you have a man that can start at tackle while slotting Lelito or Kelemete in at guard
Garcia is more of a natural C but can play G. Not sure about Kelemete yet, Lelito either as G, but I do agree we need depth at T for sure. My wild card is Evans, does he get pushed around like a rag doll or he return to form.
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Old 03-15-2015, 02:10 PM   #573
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Just read this,pretty interesting

Brandt: Georgia Tech's Darren Waller could be 2015 draft steal

Gil Brandt
NFL Media senior analyst

There were 31 NFL teams in attendance for Georgia Tech's pro day Friday, including several wide receiver coaches. Seven players worked out indoors on Field Turf, including two players who were at the combine.

Most of the reps on hand were there to see Darren Waller. A wide receiver, Waller is a very interesting prospect not only because of his size (6-foot-6, 241 pounds), but because he runs so well. He was much faster than anyone thought he would be at the combine, where he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds. He stood on all of his combine numbers, but he had a very good workout Friday, showing off very soft hands and catching the ball very well. This is a prospect you'll want to keep an eye on. Some NFL team just might get itself a steal.


DeAndre Smelter, who also was at the combine, has not been able to work out because of a torn ACL he suffered in November, but he measured in at 6-foot-2, 227 pounds. He has 11 1/8-inch hands and 33-inch arms. No date has been set yet for his workout.

One other player of note was Shaq Mason, who was not at the combine. Mason (6-foot-1 3/4, 304 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.97 and 5.00. He had a 32-inch vertical and a 9-foot-2 broad jump. He hda a 4.65 short shuttle and a 7.53 3-cone drill, and posted 25 bench-press reps. Mason was worked out as a center and looked solid. He's probably a late-round draft pick or a priority free agent.
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:43 PM   #574
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My most recent draft


13: BRANDON SCHERFF - OT - IOWA
-Scherff would come in and be our starting LG. Brees would have his middle of the line protection and we'll maul people in the running game

31: ERIC KENDRICKS - ILB - UCLA
-Very productive ILB at UCLA. Instinctive and fast, and good in coverage. Does he fit the 3-4 tho? Still, a definite upgrade

44: HAU'OLI KIKAHA - OLB - WASHINGTON
-all he's done over the last two seasons at Washington is record 142 tackles, 40.5TFL, 32 sacks, 5 PBU and 6 FF. We need someone to get after the QB? Here he is

75: BRESHAD PERRIMAN - WR - UCF
-tall WR with good production. Needs to clean up his route running, but he's a nice pick up in the 3rd rounds

78: IFO EKPRE-OLOMU - CB - OREGON
-was rated a first round draft pick prior to his injury. May not have ideal height (for today's NFL), but makes up for it in technique, hand-eye coordination and talent. Also good in run support

140: STEVEN NELSON - CB - OREGON STATE
-was surprised he was here in the 5th round. Taller CB who plays with a major chip on his shoulder, acting like he's the biggest guy on the field. Has 16 PBU and 8 INTs over the last two seasons. Brings added toughness to our DB core

146: XAVIER WILLIAMS - DT - NORTHERN IOWA
-high energy/motor guy, former wrestler who plays with low center of gravity and isn't moved around much. Developmental prospect but has the drive coaches love

171: TYRUS THOMPSON - OT - OKLAHOMA
-definitely need OT depth. Thompson available in the 6th seemed like a great value pick

205: JEAN SIFRIN - TE - MASSACHUSETTS
-Tall TE (6'7) who only played one year of D1 football, and is also older (27 years old). Former basketball player with great vertical and catching radius. Rarely goes down after initial hit (per scouting report). Our new TE version of Graham?
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:08 PM   #575
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Marques Colston, Hofstra, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Analysis

Positives: Has a tall, thick frame with long limbs … Physical player who excels on slants and crossing patterns, as he uses his size to shield defenders from the ball … Has enough leg drive to break tackles … Uses his hands effectively to power through the jam and his size makes it difficult for cornerbacks in attempts to reroute him or knock him off his patterns … Has the field awareness to settle in the zone's soft spot and does a good job of using his body to wall off defenders … Fearless catching in a crowd and is the type that will dish out more punishment than he gets working in traffic … Can outmaneuver smaller defenders for a jump ball … Times his leaps well to get to the ball at its high point.

Negatives: At his maximum weight for a receiver (any more bulk might dictate a move to tight end) … Will throttle down and observe the action when he is not involved in the play … Has good timed speed, but because of his long stride and inability to stay low in his pads, he can't generate the burst needed to separate on long routes … Lacks plant-and-drive agility, spending too much time rounding his cuts and gathering at the top of the route … Has had ball concentration issues that resulted in several costly fumbles … Does not have the second gear needed to separate and turn a small catch into a big gain … Needs to explode out of his cuts better and this is caused mostly when he fails to drop his route in his patterns … Has large hands, but will sometimes short arm going for the ball in a crowd or double catch (see 2005 Northeastern and Richmond games).

Colston has a tall frame with long limbs and adequate muscle definition. He added bulk during the off-season and his frame is at maximum growth potential for a receiver without losing any of his burst and quickness. Much like former Green Bay Packer Tyrone Davis and former New Orleans Saint Eddie "Boo" Williams, Colston might eventually fill out more and will then probably have to shift to tight end at the pro level.

Colston is a tough, physical receiver who relished his role as a chain-mover. He has a strong release, but needs to be more consistent generating explosion coming off the line of scrimmage. He is a bit of a long strider, but has the sudden burst to separate after the catch. Despite his excellent timed speed, he does not have good initial quickness, as he needs to build to top speed.

As a route-runner, Colston needs to refine his technique. He rounds his cuts too often and while he shows a good burst after the catch, his long stride makes him appear lazy getting into his routes. In order to be effective, he will need to explode out of his cuts better. He runs mostly slants and underneath routes and needs to recognize movement better.

Colston has the speed to elude, but prefers to power through defenders coming out of his breaks and this resulted in several costly fumbles in 2005 (see Richmond and Northeastern games). He knows how to use his size to wall off defenders and shield the ball. He has large hands and long arms to reach and pluck the ball, but most of his drops are caused by a lack of concentration.

Colston likes the contact working over the middle. He is not afraid to take a hit going over the middle and this attitude, combined with his body growth, could see him more effective as an underneath target at tight end rather than lining up at split end. He has the body control to twist and turn to make the catch in a crowd and shows good flexibility to secure the pass at its high point (just needs better consistency).

At the level he played at, he still struggled when having to go deep and needs to stay lower in his pads and show better hip snap to generate more explosion in his routes. Before 2005, he would try to overpower defenders, but now shows better balance and leg drive. He developed some wiggle to escape initial contact, but when he gathers before cutting, he negates his timed speed.

His frame and aggressiveness would make him an effective blocker, but he will lose concentration at times, keep his arms short and this allows defenders to slip past in backside pursuit. The talent and strength are there to be a good in-line blocker. He just needs to develop better overall consistency.

Colston is an interesting prospect because of his size and timed speed. He needs to show more explosiveness in his burst and develop better consistency. He is prone to mental lapses on the field and while he is a hard worker, he is not regarded as leadership material. He needs to be pushed at times, as he tends to get lazy, but overall, he has been a good program player. Based on his size/speed ratio, if he continues to run well in private workouts, he could sneak into the mid-to-late round draft picture.

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My first shot at it since all of the craziness this past week. Only did 3 rounds.

R1P13 OLB VIC BEASLEY CLEMSON
-Absolute no-brainer. In 3-4 sets he's the Jack and allows us to use Galette as more of a situational pass rusher in nickel sets.

R1P31 DT EDDIE GOLDMAN FLORIDA STATE
-It was surprisingly tough to make this pick. There were quite a few players that I didn't want to reach on (I considered taking my 2nd round pick here) so I went with Edwards. Should be an upgrade over Deaderick in that interior D-Line rotation.

R2P12 ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY CLEMSON
-That's right, we're doubling up on Clemson defenders. Hopefully it works out better than when we doubled up on Wake Forest defenders. Anthony could immediately challenge Ellerbe and Hawthorne for a starting role.

R3P11 G ALI MARPET HOBART
-I doubt he's available here but if so it's another no-brainer.

R3P14 TE CLIVE WALFORD MIAMI
-It remains to be seen if Josh Hill can carry the load and Ben Watson doesn't have too long left.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:30 PM   #577
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton View Post
I agree. It don't matter what round they project a player,if you really want him and believe he will be as asset worth picking in that particular round,then go for it....he may not be there when you pick again. That was a big reason why the Saints moved up last year to get Cooks. They probably had a hunch he wasn't gonna make it to our pick.
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Eagles wanted him. We messed up their first round strategy. They had one of the worst first round picks.
Look, I really like Cooks, but we messed ourselves up as well...

We could have waited for Kelvin Benjamin and had the big, tall replacement for Colston...

Or Jordan Matthews, who Coach Payton took an early shine to as well...

Funny thing is, the third round pick, which we could have used on, say, a linebacker, Arizona used it to select Pittsburgh State's John Brown who had 5 TDs (two were game winners) and 596 yards...

Brown's production dropped off when Arizona lost their starting quarterback for the season, so his numbers may have been even greater...
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My most recent draft

44: HAU'OLI KIKAHA - OLB - WASHINGTON
-all he's done over the last two seasons at Washington is record 142 tackles, 40.5TFL, 32 sacks, 5 PBU and 6 FF. We need someone to get after the QB? Here he is

75: BRESHAD PERRIMAN - WR - UCF
-tall WR with good production. Needs to clean up his route running, but he's a nice pick up in the 3rd rounds

78: IFO EKPRE-OLOMU - CB - OREGON
-was rated a first round draft pick prior to his injury. May not have ideal height (for today's NFL), but makes up for it in technique, hand-eye coordination and talent. Also good in run support
I don't know why if it's Shoup or where Perriman's average draft position is among the FanSpeak fans, but Perriman is gone by the end of the second round...

Perriman is there when I run the simulator, but I don't take him because I know he's not going to be there...

And there's something about the Washington linebacker that leads me to believe he's an N.F.L. (Not For Long) type player and why I want no part of him...

Want no part of a player who's name requires that much effort; look in my business and in my previous civic life, I was great with names, always seemed to say it right the first time...

But the Oregon CB looks like another Jason David and is gonna getting physically abused by NFL WRs...

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My first shot at it since all of the craziness this past week. Only did 3 rounds.

R1P13 OLB VIC BEASLEY CLEMSON
-Absolute no-brainer. In 3-4 sets he's the Jack and allows us to use Galette as more of a situational pass rusher in nickel sets.

R1P31 DT EDDIE GOLDMAN FLORIDA STATE
-It was surprisingly tough to make this pick. There were quite a few players that I didn't want to reach on (I considered taking my 2nd round pick here) so I went with Edwards. Should be an upgrade over Deaderick in that interior D-Line rotation.

R2P12 ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY CLEMSON
-That's right, we're doubling up on Clemson defenders. Hopefully it works out better than when we doubled up on Wake Forest defenders. Anthony could immediately challenge Ellerbe and Hawthorne for a starting role.

R3P11 G ALI MARPET HOBART
-I doubt he's available here but if so it's another no-brainer.

R3P14 TE CLIVE WALFORD MIAMI
-It remains to be seen if Josh Hill can carry the load and Ben Watson doesn't have too long left.
Pass on Clive...

We're of the same thinking on the first picks...

I like Carl Davis size, strength more and I think he'll be better paired with Beasley as he can easily occupy and diffuse two blockers, freeing up Beasley to inflict damage like a missle...
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Latest mock on Fanspeak, covers all of our issues & makes everyone Happy Happy Happy...

Rd1(13) NT Danny Shelton, Washington

Rd1(31) CB Marcus Peters, Washington

Rd2(44) ILB Stephone Anthony, Clemson

Rd3(75) OT/OG Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M

Rd3(78) WR Breshaud Perriman, UCF

Rd5(140) OG Shaq Mason, Georgia Tech

Rd5(146) ILB Jordan Hicks, Texas

I'll start off by saying, chances are slim to none both 3rd selections will be there.

This draft would shore up our interior defensive front seven with Shelton at the nose & Anthony/Hicks adding much needed athleticism at the ILB positions. Both have great instincts & can cover!

Ogbuehi can play LG if we so chose to put him there making a VERY athletic left side next to Armstead. Shaq Mason is the RG of the future after Jahri's career comes to an end & also gives us great Depth as he can play Center & guard.

Peters is a tremendous talent & the idea of Browner/Lewis coaching him up & keeping him in check makes the pick all the better.

Perriman more than likely goes no later than mid 2nd. Hard to see him falling...Latimer scenario last year is a great example of his ascension this year.

Slim chance Ogbuehi falls to the 3rd, but it is possible. Brandon Thomas is a good example from last year. Fell of a bit at LT & moved to LG & then had the injury, so we'll see how that goes.

I also like DT/DE Marcus Hardison, Arizona St. In the middle of the draft somewhere if his stock doesnt rise.
Measures 6'5, 300lbs. Believe he weighed around 311 at the senior bowl.
Versatile guy that can rush the passer & had great production this year(54 tackles, 11 sacks, 16 TFL, 2 INTs, 3 FF, 1 FR) ....gives us depth we're lacking outside of Foster.

Cant wait til April 30th
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