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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd like not to draft a cornerback with an early round pick because our talent evaluators seem incapable of making the right selection... The only success we've had was in free agency periods which I'd prefer ...

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Old 11-30-2014, 11:49 AM   #61
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Re: 2015 draft??

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I'd like not to draft a cornerback with an early round pick because our talent evaluators seem incapable of making the right selection...

The only success we've had was in free agency periods which I'd prefer that route regarding cornerback, having a proven commodity...

I'd like to see us focus on the front lines, offensive and defense (front seven) - we no longer control nor or tough enough on the lines...
this is not like last year. we can go into the second with some solid CB still on the board. I do not see a reach like last year with this group.
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Old 12-03-2014, 06:23 PM   #62
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Latest draft

Round 1: Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
- stud at a position of need, that's all

Round 2: TJ Cummings - OT - Pittsburgh
- fell to our spot in round 2. Strief is getting up there and we could use a new bookend across from Armstead coming up, tho Strief is still reliable.

Round 3: Tre Jackson - OG - Florida State
- mammoth OG, mauler in the run game. Good in pass protection, but not great. But he can get there! He can replace Grubbs or Evans, then we'd have four guys in the Oline 25 years old or under

Round 4: Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forrest
- smaller school for D1 big boys. Last two seasons has had 25 PBUs and 6 INTs. Read some nice things and figured in the 4th, he'd be a good pick and it's an area of need for us

Round 5: Josh Shaw - CB - USC
- was suspended most the season due to lying about hurting his leg (said he jumped out a window to save his drowning nephew or something). He gets his hands on a lot of balls and is value in the 5th

Round 6: AJ Johnson - ILB - Tennessee
- was thrilled he fell this far. Stud MLB who is all over the field. Just get the job done

Round 7: Ray Drew - DE - Georgia
- some Dline depth, tho we have a lot of young talent at the DE position as it is
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:00 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Barry from MS View Post
You want to get serious about this linebacker thing, you get some proven run stoppers AND coverage linebackers from the best conference against the best competition on the biggest stages. You want to get serious on building a strong Front 7, you get some proven talent at MLB. Sending out a flyer like that 4th round pick on Fortt to shore up your ILB problems has proven to be both stupid and stupider.
No doubt however if you look around the league, some of the best LB's didn't play their college ball in the mighty SEC. Luke Kiechly, LaVonte David, Bobby Wagner, Jamie Collins, Bowman (when healthy) etc. Saints need to be looking high and low for a stud LB, not specifically SEC schools.

There are so many unpolished diamonds out there at LB, we just need to do a better job of scouting these guys.
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:44 AM   #64
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Hey Brett Perriman former Saints WR was from Miami I think. Any relation to current Hurricane LB Perriman? Anyway my take. La'el Collins in the 1st-put him next to Armstead and the line's looking good. La'el is a premier left guard and run blocker. Just what we need. All D the rest of the way until the 6th round where we take LSU RB Kenny Hilliard. We've had good success with Hilliards right? We can't let him go somewhere else(leading rusher in LA high school history-more yds than Fournette), especially when we can get him late. We are one of the few teams in the league with no LSU players. LSU has more players in the league than any other college. The fans love it and they're great players. It's win win.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:16 AM   #65
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I can't see Collins being in the board. These early mocks etc have the Saints picking in the 10-13 range but If we win this week and the clowns loose as expected I can't see the team letting the division slip. We will pick 22+ and the top OT/OLB will be gone

Be interested what people thoughts are on

OLB/DE
Shilque Calhoun
Akln Dupree

O-line
Erek Flowers OT
Cameron Serving OT/G/C
Cedric Ogbuhei
Josue Mathias

DT/NT
Danny Shelton

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Eric Kendricks
B. McKinney(read mixed reports)
Denzel Perryman
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:11 PM   #66
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Round 1 - NT Malcolm Brown, Texas (Jr); 6' 4", 325lbs

Round 2 - LB Jake Ryan, Michigan (Sr); 6' 3", 235 lbs

Round 3 - OG Jarvis Harrison, Texas A & M (Sr); 6' 3", 325 lbs

Round 4 - LB A. J. Johnson, Tennessee (Sr); 6' 2", 242 lbs

Round 5 - OL B. J. Finney, Kansas (Sr); 6' 4", 303 lbs

Round 6 - DE Henry Anderson, Stanford (Sr); 6' 7", 295 lbs

Round 7 - OL Eric Lefeld, Cincinnati, (Sr); 6' 6", 315 lbs
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Old 12-05-2014, 05:09 PM   #67
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Can i suggest i take over drafting players

First pick(trade back plenty)

Round 1 Pick 16 (PITT): Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
Round 2 Pick 12 (CHI): Arie Kouandjio, OG, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 16 (PITT): Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State
Round 2 Pick 26 (SEA): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
Round 3 Pick 10: Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
Round 3 Pick 12 (CHI): T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama
Round 3 Pick 16 (PITT): Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky
Round 3 Pick 26 (SEA): A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee
Round 4 Pick 10: Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 26 (SEA): Antwan Goodley, WR, Baylor
Round 5 Pick 10: Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma
Round 6 Pick 10: Cedric Reed, DE, Texas
Round 7 Pick 10: Charles Tuaau, DT, Texas A&M-Commerce

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This is quite interesting


14 for '14: Top small-school prospects


Mike Huguenin
College Football 24/7 writer


While the vast majority of players selected every year will come from the FBS ranks, there still were 26 non-FBS players selected in the 2014 NFL Draft.

Included in that total was one FCS player selected in the second round, Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. And there were four non-FBS players in the third round.

As part of our "14 for '14" series, here's a look at 14 of the best small-school prospects for the 2015 draft; all are seniors, and each will be on scouts' radar this fall.


Bryan Bennett, QB, Southeastern Louisiana
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 205 pounds

Buzz: Bennett's name should be familiar to fans, especially to those who follow the Pac-12: He was the quarterback Marcus Mariota beat out to earn the starting job at Oregon in 2012. Bennett was Mariota's backup that fall before transferring to Southeastern Louisiana last season. The junior threw for 3,165 yards and 21 touchdowns and rushed for 1,046 yards and 16 touchdowns (a single-season school record) for the Lions last fall. Bennett, who led the Lions to the quarterfinals of the FCS playoffs, was the Southland Conference Player of the Year. Scouts will be looking to see if he can improve his accuracy this fall; he completed 61 percent of his passes last season.



Quinn Epperly, QB, Princeton
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 220 pounds

Buzz: Epperly is the reigning Ivy League Offensive Player of the Year and won the award in his first full season as the starter. Epperly completed 68 percent of his passes and threw for 2,137 yards and 25 TDs (against just three interceptions) last season; he also ran for 570 yards and 18 TDs in 10 games. Epperly, who is left-handed, accounted for at least three touchdowns in each of the Tigers' last nine games in 2013 and completed an NCAA-record 29 consecutive passes in a win over Cornell. Princeton scored 50 points five times last season; the Tigers had scored 50 points five times in previous 48 seasons.





David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 225 pounds

Buzz: Johnson is heading into his third season as a full-time starter for the Panthers; he was a part-time starter as a redshirt freshman in 2011. Scouts like his size and speed combo (he has been clocked in at sub-4.5 seconds in the 40). Johnson also is proficient as a receiver, but his main talent is as a runner; he will run behind a good offensive line this fall and should easily top 1,000 yards for the third consecutive season.



Jake Kumerow, WR, Wisconsin-Whitewater
Particulars: 6-foot-5, 195 pounds

Buzz: Kumerow has good size and good hands and is a deep threat for the Warhawks, the reigning Division III national champions. He also is the son of former NFL first-round pick Eric Kumerow; the nephew of former NFL first-rounder John Bosa; and the cousin of Ohio State star sophomore defensive end Joey Bosa. Jake Kumerow began his career at Illinois but transferred to Division III Wisconsin-Whitewater before the 2012 season. Last season, Kumerow had 77 catches for 1,331 yards (17.3 yards per reception) and 19 TDs; he had six games with multiple TD receptions and had five 100-yard games, including a 103-yard, two-touchdown performance in a 52-14 rout of Mount Union (Ohio) in the Division III title game.


Cole Manhart, OT, Nebraska-Kearney
Particulars: 6-foot-6, 300 pounds

Buzz: Manhart will be a three-year starter at left tackle for the Lopers, a Division II program. Manhart is big, strong -- he can squat 500 pounds -- and plays with a mean streak, but he's also nimble enough to play H-back in what Nebraska-Kearney calls its "hammer package." Manhart was one of four Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association players named a first-team All-American by the American Football Coaches Association last season; two of the other first-team members -- Pittsburg State wide receiver John Brown and Lindenwood cornerback Pierre Desir -- were taken in the 2014 NFL Draft. Manhart was the only unanimous selection on last season's All-MIAA first team.





Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Particulars: 6-foot-2, 205 pounds

Buzz: McBride will be a three-year starter for the Tribe and is coming off a season in which he had 63 receptions for 801 yards and five TDs. McBride also served as the Tribe's kick returner and averaged 27.5 yards per return. He has 15 TD receptions in the past two seasons and runs well for a guy his size (he has been clocked sub-4.4 in the 40).





MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 250 pounds

Buzz: He will be a four-year starter for the Salukis and has been remarkably consistent, catching between 43 and 48 passes for 562 to 601 yards in each of the past three seasons. His touchdown total has been consistent, too, going from three in 2011 to four in 2012 to five last season. He was ranked third nationally in receptions (48) among tight ends in the FCS last season despite missing two games with a broken leg. He plays in a run-oriented offense and is a solid blocker. He also has H-back potential at the next level.






Kevin Rodgers, QB, Henderson State
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 215 pounds

Buzz: Rodgers has been a finalist for the Harlon Hill Trophy -- which goes to the top player in Division II -- in each of the past two seasons. Last season, he threw for 4,807 yards with 40 TDs and 12 picks, and completed 68.95 percent of his passes. He threw for 4,002 yards and 41 TDs in 2012. He has thrown for at least 400 yards nine times in the past two seasons and has 18 300-yard games in that span. Rodgers, who already has graduated and is working on his MBA, holds school records for passing yards, touchdown passes and completions. Fans will get a chance to see Rodgers on the CBS Sports Network on Sept. 18, when Henderson State (which is located in Arkadelphia, Arkansas) plays host to Southeastern Oklahoma.




De'Ante "Pop" Saunders, CB, Tennessee State
Particulars: 5-foot-11, 200 pounds

Buzz: Saunders was a two-year starter at safety at Florida before he was kicked off the team late in the 2012 season. He had four interceptions, 39 tackles and nine pass breakups for Tennessee State last season as a cornerback, but his best pro position might be safety. Saunders -- who started as a true freshman at Florida -- lacks elite speed, but he has great instincts, is active in run support and can lay the lumber. Saunders has NFL talent, but red flags are flying with regard to his character.




Jaquiski Tartt, SS, Samford
Particulars: 6-foot-1, 218 pounds

Buzz: Tartt has good size and is extremely active in run support; he also runs well for his size (he has been clocked as fast as 4.46 in the 40). He had 98 tackles last season for the Bulldogs -- the year the team won the Southern Conference. He also had one interception, which he returned for a score, and nine pass breakups. Tartt has made 192 tackles and scored three defensive touchdowns in the past two seasons. The safety only played one season of high school football in Mobile, Alabama.




Lynden Trail, OLB, Norfolk State
Particulars: 6-foot-7, 260 pounds

Buzz: Trail is an intriguing prospect because of his size, production (he had 8.5 sacks and 94 tackles last season) and background (he began his college career at Florida and was considered one of the nation's top high school defensive ends at powerhouse Miami Washington). He also had 12.5 tackles for loss, five forced fumbles, two blocked kicks, 10 quarterback hurries and eight pass breakups last season. He has 14.5 sacks and 29.5 tackles for loss in two seasons with the Spartans. Trail has gained more than 40 pounds since graduating from high school. Of note: He didn't play at all at Florida -- he redshirted as a true freshman in 2010 and did not seeing any time in 2011 before deciding to move on. But as he has gained weight, he has made big strides on the field. His size and pass-rush skills are notable.





Charles Tuaau, DT, Texas A&M-Commerce
Particulars: 6-foot-5, 310 pounds

Buzz: Tuaau, a native of Hawaii, made a huge impact in his first season with the Division II Lions after transferring from a California junior college; he had 12.5 sacks and 25.5 tackles for loss -- staggering numbers for a nose tackle -- in garnering Lone Star Athletic Conference Defensive Player of the Year honors last fall. Tuaau signed with Hawaii out of high school but ended up at Pasadena City College in 2011. He played for Riverside community college in 2012 then signed with Oregon State in February 2013. But he didn't meet OSU's academic requirements and ended up at Texas A&M-Commerce (known as East Texas State until 1996), which is located in a town of population 9,000 about an hour northeast of downtown Dallas. His disruptive nature will intrigue NFL scouts.





Zach Wagenmann, DE, Montana
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 250 pounds

Buzz: Wagenmann is easy to spot when you watch a Grizzlies game on TV -- he's the guy whose long blond locks are flowing out of his helmet when he is running down opposing quarterbacks. He will be a three-year starter for one of the best FCS programs in the nation and has 20 sacks and 29.5 tackles for loss in his career. Wagenmann had 8.5 sacks, 64 tackles and three forced fumbles last season. His pass-rush prowess is what has garnered notice from scouts. He didn't get serious about football until he was a junior in high school, instead concentrating on basketball.





Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa
Particulars: 6-foot-4, 311 pounds

Buzz: Williams is big, physical and active. The then-junior had 74 tackles last season to go with 5.5 sacks and 12 tackles for loss; he also blocked five kicks in the 2012 season, one of which occurred against Wisconsin. Williams is a former high school wrestler who does a good job with leverage considering his height.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:38 AM   #69
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Cole Manhart is one of the guys I've been following; want to see him at the combine in some of the skills drills...

Lorig has been an utter bust - I'd take a look at bringing in Northern Iowa's David Johnson; if Austin Johnson is unable to recover at least you'd have one Big Johnson to replace the Broken Johnson...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Cole Manhart is one of the guys I've been following; want to see him at the combine in some of the skills drills...

Lorig has been an utter bust - I'd take a look at bringing in Northern Iowa's David Johnson; if Austin Johnson is unable to recover at least you'd have one Big Johnson to replace the Broken Johnson...
What has Lorig done wrong aside from getting injured?

I thought he looked sharp in Pittsburgh.
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