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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by iceshack149 What the heck happened to John Jenkins? I thought he was going to be a good Football player. Believe he had a pectoral tear. I was concerned there would be a big drop off. Seen it ...

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Old 11-25-2014, 10:16 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 View Post
What the heck happened to John Jenkins? I thought he was going to be a good Football player.
Believe he had a pectoral tear. I was concerned there would be a big drop off. Seen it before with a that injury if that's the case.
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Last night was the perfect example of why a 3-4 defense gets owned if the other team has a great zone-blocking scheme and the OL to execute it. And Kubiak's the master of it. It wasn't even bad tackling last night, it was just running lanes galore.
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they kicked us in the teeth. i was happy to see the saints actually start kicking back for a change.
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
Last night was the perfect example of why a 3-4 defense gets owned if the other team has a great zone-blocking scheme and the OL to execute it. And Kubiak's the master of it. It wasn't even bad tackling last night, it was just running lanes galore.
I agree with the first part, but not bad tackling? We missed tackle after tackle. There were multiple long runs that could have been cut down by proper tackles. Just off the top, I can remember one by Kenny coming up on run D and one by P-Rob against T. Smith.

Side note: Was trying to find defensive stats, came across this gem. Another clear sign of terrible #2&3 CBs.

"Though only targeted five times Robinson surrendered four catches and missed a tackle on Torrey Smith on two of those plays. The first came on an out route allowing Smith to add yards to a third down conversion early in the fourth quarter before he let Smith get away from him over the middle of the field on the Ravens final drive converting long yardage into a manageable third-and-two."

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...aints-week-12/
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:22 PM   #15
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I fought all the Ryan doubters up until now. We are killed by injuries but it's still obvious that he has no idea how to re-scheme with new players. Every team has injuries, maybe not this many, but injuries. So we need a D-Coordinator that can change schemes and call smarter plays on crucial downs.

I think we have to get a new D-Coordinator next year. Anyone have any ideas of potential coaches for the job if the Saints decide to go in that direction.
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Forsett set the tempo for that game.....we were on our heels the entire game. Our LB'ers are sub standard. We certainly need another NT but what we really need are good LBer's. Dear Lord please get me some LB'ers.

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John Jenkins was getting pushed around like a 240# nose tackle and running like a 425# nose tackle. With Bunkley gone we will see a lot more of this loser. It's gonna be a long game at the Steelers next week. Look for ANOTHER RB to have a career day. The worst part about the DL and LB's, they have all been at the top of the depth chart since pre-season. These are the guys they wanted from the beginning. I only see four worth saving. Hicks, Jr, Jordan and Lofton a back-up.
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Originally Posted by aldocella1 View Post
John Jenkins was getting pushed around like a 240# nose tackle and running like a 425# nose tackle. With Bunkley gone we will see a lot more of this loser. It's gonna be a long game at the Steelers next week. Look for ANOTHER RB to have a career day. The worst part about the DL and LB's, they have all been at the top of the depth chart since pre-season. These are the guys they wanted from the beginning. I only see four worth saving. Hicks, Jr, Jordan and Lofton a back-up.
As Gruden pointed out, Jenkins was simply playing too high, he needs to get his pad level lower. Its a common problem among big men and its entirely coachable, you just have to stay on them about it. They're a bit high maintenance in that regard.

I'll bet they work on that with him all week. I suspect he'll play pretty well against the Steelers next week. Just a hunch.
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Believe he had a pectoral tear. I was concerned there would be a big drop off. Seen it before with a that injury if that's the case.
Bunkley was injured and Jenkins was a terrible replacement. At one point Gruden said that the Saints needed to get him off the field he was so bad.
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Bell is a patient runner with great vision. Way better than any other RB from last years draft class. (don't like Lacy)

It would take a miracle to be decent against the run on sunday. Big boys need to show up or it will be easy 150+ yds 2 tds for Bell.
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