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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Not sure about the rest of you but if I just robbed a convenience store and minutes later a police officer told me to stop. I think I stop and follow orders. How is it that two wrongs (stealing and ...

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Old 11-29-2014, 09:38 AM   #11
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Not sure about the rest of you but if I just robbed a convenience store and minutes later a police officer told me to stop. I think I stop and follow orders. How is it that two wrongs (stealing and then not following police orders) somehow now makes it OK for these people to go about destroying the property and making life dangerous for innocent people? The priorities are warped here. Pick a different hero to worship perhaps for starters. I think the "kid" was a bully based on how he treated the store clerk and the police officer. He was used to using his enormous size to get his way it seems. It caught up with him.
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Am very critical of Loomis and his record...

But I take my hat off to him on one of the few free agent signings I really liked...

Watson has brought a great class act to this locker room...
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With this politically correct America, people no longer take responsibility for their actions. When they do something wrong, they know they're doing something wrong but don't want to take responsibility for it, they always want to blame someone else for what they did and why they did it. The raising of our youth in today's debt slave world has parents so stressed and worn down that when they get home they don't spend the time they need to with their kids. They just want to veg out in front of the TV and shut everything out. They tell their kids to go out and play so they can try to wind down. The kids go out and get into mischef and since they feel that their parents won't care they get into things that lead to violence and criminal activity so they can look cool amongst their friends. They are not taught by their parents things like common courtesy, respect for other peoples property or just respect for another human being. Then when their kids go out and commit a crime and get killed or shot, they want to get enraged and feel like any slight or insult is license to go out and loot and burn and do violence to others. Plain simple common courtesy can go a long way toward curing some of these issues as well as people taking responsibility for their own actions. If you want respect, you must give respect. One way to gain respect is to take responsibility for your actions. If you don't want to go to jail, don't shoplift, don't break and enter, don't invade someone's home, don't steal someone's car, don't physically attack someone just because they have something you want. News flash here people, you didn't come into this world with any guarantee. Nobody owes you anything. You have the same opportunity in this country to get an education and get a good job as anyone. If you squander it and go the way of the gangster, you get what you sow. Like they say, don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. There are so many things wrong with our country today because of this political correctness, that it's killing us as a country. This for the moment is still a semi free country. If you don't like it here, then by all means go somewhere else. You're completely free to do so. If you come from a country that isn't so free and want to be here because of freedom from tyranny or crime or whatever, then stop being so arrogant and learn what freedom is all about, learn the language of your gracious host and come here LEGALLY. I know I'll get fried for this but how is it that only white people can be racist? Every one of us in this country today is a slave. We have been made slaves by our own government and national banks. They have made us all debt slaves. So guess what, we're all in this mess together. We need to stop pointing fingers at the other guy and be responsible for ourselves and our own actions. Everyone's talking about this Brown guy. I'll admit I haven't even had time to look at the video's or anything else for that matter, but from what I've heard, this guy was shoplifting. Last time I checked, that was a crime. A police officer came along and spotted the guy doing some strange stuff or walking around in an unusual manner. He stopped to talk to him and recognized that he fit the description of the perpetrator of the shoplifting crime. It was his duty to every one of the citizens of St. Louis, to pick this guy up and bring him in for questioning and being ID'd. This guy resists. Anyone in their right mind knows that you don't resist the police. Just go along and everything will work itself out and if you're innocent, they'll let you go. Only a small inconvenience. Not this guy. He goes for the cop's gun, gets shot, gets out the car and starts walking away. You know that the cop can't let this guy walk away. He's a suspected criminal who just resisted arrest and tried to take a police officer's gun, got shot in the process and tried to flee the scene. The police officer cannot allow this to happen. He MUST protect the rights and safety of the community so he orders the guy to stop. This guy then turns around and bull rushes the police officer who he is taller than and outweights by 50 to 100+ pounds. The officer has no alternative but to defend himself and the community. I ask you, what would you do in the same circumstance? Personally, I don't care what color the guy was, red, green, purple, blue or chartreuse, I'd shoot him too, and you know you would as well. It's a shame people do crimes. When they hurt or kill others, I guess it's alright and forget what they did to some family. We should say, poor baby, because his ancestors of over several hundred years ago were made slaves by ENGLAND! so we should feel sorry for him. It's only a phase and he'll grow out of it. Fact is, in today's society, most people just want to get along and be friends. Try to make as good a living as they can and provide for their kids and if you give them half a chance, they can be your friend. Problem is, that today, just like hundreds of years ago, there are those who are too lazy to go out and work for what they get and just want to steal it from someone else because they get a charge out of others fearing them and those people will continue to fill our prisons and graveyards.
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He's an intelligent man with an intelligent view and opinion. I'm glad he's a Saint.

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I don't really see anything "thoughtful" in that discussion.
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I don't really see anything "thoughtful" in that discussion.
Why don't you describe what you saw in that discussion since it wasn't 'thoughtful' to you.
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I don't really see anything "thoughtful" in that discussion.
The fact that Watson, a black man, even acknowledged that there was another side to the story, was indeed thoughtful. To many Americans this was obvious. To most in the black community, this was not even mentioned.
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I don't really see anything "thoughtful" in that discussion.
He put a little thought into how he views a multifaceted cultural issue instead of blindly following the media like certain Rams players. Give the guy some credit for being intelligent and wanting to understand different sides of a story.
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Ben Watson put more thought into 5 paragraphs than anyone I've heard or read since this crap started.
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With this politically correct America, people no longer take responsibility for their actions. When they do something wrong, they know they're doing something wrong but don't want to take responsibility for it, they always want to blame someone else for what they did and why they did it. The raising of our youth in today's debt slave world has parents so stressed and worn down that when they get home they don't spend the time they need to with their kids. They just want to veg out in front of the TV and shut everything out. They tell their kids to go out and play so they can try to wind down. The kids go out and get into mischef and since they feel that their parents won't care they get into things that lead to violence and criminal activity so they can look cool amongst their friends. They are not taught by their parents things like common courtesy, respect for other peoples property or just respect for another human being. Then when their kids go out and commit a crime and get killed or shot, they want to get enraged and feel like any slight or insult is license to go out and loot and burn and do violence to others. Plain simple common courtesy can go a long way toward curing some of these issues as well as people taking responsibility for their own actions. If you want respect, you must give respect. One way to gain respect is to take responsibility for your actions. If you don't want to go to jail, don't shoplift, don't break and enter, don't invade someone's home, don't steal someone's car, don't physically attack someone just because they have something you want. News flash here people, you didn't come into this world with any guarantee. Nobody owes you anything. You have the same opportunity in this country to get an education and get a good job as anyone. If you squander it and go the way of the gangster, you get what you sow. Like they say, don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. There are so many things wrong with our country today because of this political correctness, that it's killing us as a country. This for the moment is still a semi free country. If you don't like it here, then by all means go somewhere else. You're completely free to do so. If you come from a country that isn't so free and want to be here because of freedom from tyranny or crime or whatever, then stop being so arrogant and learn what freedom is all about, learn the language of your gracious host and come here LEGALLY. I know I'll get fried for this but how is it that only white people can be racist? Every one of us in this country today is a slave. We have been made slaves by our own government and national banks. They have made us all debt slaves. So guess what, we're all in this mess together. We need to stop pointing fingers at the other guy and be responsible for ourselves and our own actions. Everyone's talking about this Brown guy. I'll admit I haven't even had time to look at the video's or anything else for that matter, but from what I've heard, this guy was shoplifting. Last time I checked, that was a crime. A police officer came along and spotted the guy doing some strange stuff or walking around in an unusual manner. He stopped to talk to him and recognized that he fit the description of the perpetrator of the shoplifting crime. It was his duty to every one of the citizens of St. Louis, to pick this guy up and bring him in for questioning and being ID'd. This guy resists. Anyone in their right mind knows that you don't resist the police. Just go along and everything will work itself out and if you're innocent, they'll let you go. Only a small inconvenience. Not this guy. He goes for the cop's gun, gets shot, gets out the car and starts walking away. You know that the cop can't let this guy walk away. He's a suspected criminal who just resisted arrest and tried to take a police officer's gun, got shot in the process and tried to flee the scene. The police officer cannot allow this to happen. He MUST protect the rights and safety of the community so he orders the guy to stop. This guy then turns around and bull rushes the police officer who he is taller than and outweights by 50 to 100+ pounds. The officer has no alternative but to defend himself and the community. I ask you, what would you do in the same circumstance? Personally, I don't care what color the guy was, red, green, purple, blue or chartreuse, I'd shoot him too, and you know you would as well. It's a shame people do crimes. When they hurt or kill others, I guess it's alright and forget what they did to some family. We should say, poor baby, because his ancestors of over several hundred years ago were made slaves by ENGLAND! so we should feel sorry for him. It's only a phase and he'll grow out of it. Fact is, in today's society, most people just want to get along and be friends. Try to make as good a living as they can and provide for their kids and if you give them half a chance, they can be your friend. Problem is, that today, just like hundreds of years ago, there are those who are too lazy to go out and work for what they get and just want to steal it from someone else because they get a charge out of others fearing them and those people will continue to fill our prisons and graveyards.
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