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Based on our weaker strength of schedule the Saints will pick one slot ahead of the Cincinnati Bengals at 16 in the 2005 draft.
It will probably be a 15 impact player deep draft knowing our luck.

[Edited on 3/1/2005 by stockman311]

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Picking 15th assures you will get at least the 2nd best MLB, OLB, DT, DE, WR, QB, RB, RT. If you take a look at Detilliers\' top 20, I\'d be happy with just about any of them. Only an idiot could screw up the 15th... Uhh, nevermind, I\'m not even gonna say it.

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So fellas, which defensive lineman are we going to select this year??? I mean, you know it\'s gonna be a DL, ya just know it.

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The majority of the mock drafts have the Saints picking Ahmad Brooks at LB. Hope their right, followed by a OT-IMO

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what lineman from georgia has declared themselves eligible for the draft? :D

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Yeah so need to take care of our line situation this off-season. I\'d draft one early and hit FA up for plenty. LB I would take a look at early but only if a rare gem is there.

Get ready for Fred Smoot in a Saints uniform this coming year... Mike, Craft and Smoot in our d backfield... hmmm.

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Unfortunately Ahmad Brooks isn\'t coming out or he would be very good.

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Thanks whodi, I was wondering why all of the mock drafts didn\'t have him in the first. What about that OLB from Tennessee? Or I hate to posts this but what about a OT(seriously). Just not Corey Webster... I think his play this year will cause him to fall fo tha second

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If Webster is there in the second, I hope we take him. He was hurt early and played average. Also, with Lavalais and Hill gone, LSU had less of a pass rush this year and never blitzed as much as last year cause their linebackers weren\'t as good. They left Corey and Travis hanging for too long too many times. I would love to have Corey in the second.

I don\'t know the OLB from Tenn though. You got his name?

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Kevin Burnett- Outside Linebacker, Tennessee, 6-3, 235

The boy can flat get after it.

Probably the #2 LB in the draft behind Johnson.

If we got him I\'d be giddy for a week.

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Okay. I have seen him. It would be nice to have a shot at him. What do you guys think about this? If Johnson is off the board and we have a shot at Antrell Rolle at Dallas\' pick(Parcels has said he will not take a corner that high) what do you guys think about a sign and trade of Howard to Dallas(they need a pass rusher) to swap firsts and we get their second also. Meaning we can draft Rolle, move Howard and have two seconds to pursue lb and safety. Good idea? Bad idea?

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I would be happy with either Carlos Rodgers or Antrelle Rolle at 16. Wouldn\'t trade up to get either. Knowing this management we will be picking David Pollack since he is from Georgia and he is not an area of need.
I swear one more bad draft and I quit.
Does anyone have the link to that states Brooks isn\'t coming out?

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Good Idea...Better idea if Derrick Johnson is still on tha board

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No way Johnson will be on the board at 11, which is Dallas\' first pick. Rolle possibly. We have a better shot there. Unless we wanna give up our first and Howard for nothing except another first in return, then we could possibly move up for Johnson. 16 isn\'t terrible though, still seems like we will be just out of the elite again though. And I would like to somehow pick up an extra second and Howard would be that ticket.

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Did I miss something? We can\'t trade Howard unless we resign him.

Last year, I was one of those \"we need a CB now\" guys. This year, I think I\'m a \"we need a LB now\" guy. However, IF we cannot get one of the top three LBs, then I\'m going to be a \"get a DT now\" guy. The LBs aren\'t the only ones responsible for our shiety run D.

I\'m still not convinced that O needs to be addressed until we have a DT and one or two LBs in the fold. I think Brooks is serviceable, our WRs are serviceable. We DO need OTs in the biggest way, but we can get by if we keep Gandy and get a serviceable RT. That said, I am open to argument here.

Also, for all the \"dump Stallworth\" guys, I don\'t think I buy that just yet either (but I\'d be happy to hear argument here too). Obviously, Horn was very productive, but I am currently of the opinion that Stallworth being on the field helped Joe get more opportunities. When Stallworth started showing flashes (around mid-season I think), Horn also picked up a lot. Isn\'t it possible that teams, though not having to key on Stallworth\'s speed, at least started having to respect his possibility of making a big play? Certainly, this would help Horn. Stallworth\'s real problem is that he has been unable to adjust to Brooks\' rocket passes - this is a problem, but it doesn\'t make him a bad WR on its own.

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You work out a deal with another team, contingent on a new contract, agreed to in principle by the new team and Howard.

Keeps him from hitting the open market. But...
1. Someone has to want him.
2. A deal must be worked out for all 3 sides.
3. We won\'t come out ahead.
4. We will at least get something for him.

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Only way i move up is for a sure thing...and DJ \"seems\" like a sure thing. Need i remind everyone of a 500 lb Dt we currently have on the roster. Only move up for DJ :mad:

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Hey Kool. Welcome back. You musta missed the last line of my initial proposal.

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Thanks Whodi.

I must be a little rusty still. I was honestly just checking on whether or not I\'d missed something.

Cheers.

(I hear that it has been a bit of a hornets\' nest around here the last week or so? I\'m not so sure I\'ll have time to read everything I missed, so let me know if there are any no-no topics of late.)

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It\'s pretty high risk, but I\'m open to franchising Howard and then shopping him.

I wonder if KC would be willing to give up 2 #1\'s for him?

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I\'m with you on this BMG.

I\'d rather trade Howard for an extra pick rather than to move up (unless we can get one of those top two LBs).

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No way...Hes good but not that good. We\'ll be lucky to swap firsts and move up about ten spots

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If a team franchises a player the player\'s salary is set, but could the team require another to pay less than the 2 #1s for a trade? I don\'t know the rule, but as long as the player is compensated as per the rule and the teams negotiate a trade where both are happy, would that be allowed?

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Buffalo did it with Peerless Price WhoDat. He was franchised but they did not get two number ones from the Falcons. The pick compensation can be worked out between the teams.

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Kool, back to being taboo is Brooks-Delhomme. It is off limits. Other than that everything is fair game as far as I know.

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Franchise tags can be removed, up to a certain date.

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Thanks Whodi.

Also, Danno, thanks for the info.