Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic

|Mitch| · 11-30-2014, 08:56 PM

I'm sure their relationship isn't as bad as the media is trying to make it seem... Everyone gets on edge during the game and arguments happen, it's all squashed afterwords though; and winning always helps

spkb25 · 11-30-2014, 09:02 PM

It does, Mitch. I am telling you though, and I am not saying that SP was blowing smoke, but SP is going to say that no matter what. If he doesn't the season is tanked because the defense completely quits. What he said could be exactly how he feels, but whether he does or does not he is going to say that

|Mitch| · 11-30-2014, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

It does, Mitch. I am telling you though, and I am not saying that SP was blowing smoke, but SP is going to say that no matter what. If he doesn't the season is tanked because the defense completely quits. What he said could be exactly how he feels, but whether he does or does not he is going to say that

Well I ask a question in response: How do the "media" have any idea what their relationship is like?

Seems to me, they're trying to create drama for whatever reason...

spkb25 · 11-30-2014, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Well I ask a question in response: How do the "media" have any idea what their relationship is like?

Seems to me, they're trying to create drama for whatever reason...

Yeah, I think you're right and the other guy that posted on this thread nailed it when he said SP just f'ed em all.

Hope SP is using the us vs them thing!

lee909 · 11-30-2014, 11:12 PM

The defense really stood up and played for Ryan last night.
Forget they conceded 32pts 16 of them and close to 200 yards was in the final two drives of a game that was won with a defense on prevent mode that never works anywhere in the league.

My only issue is we need to take the turnovers that are on offer, P Rob dropped too many that could prove costly in other games.

Also stop the prevent defense it doesn't work, carry on being aggressive and we won't be any worse off, too many points given away in thr final 2 of each half all year. The offense also needs to be better in the that time making lobg drives and retaining possessions, too many three and outs.
When you watch Seattle at there best if they are up by three in the final 3-4 mins you know they will pound the ball and eat the clock

AlaskaSaints · 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Sean Payton punked out the entire press room, and rightfully so. They were all trying to call him out on rumors and \he made them completely look like fools.

Hopefully that was a spark and the team will get their swagger back after this huge win. Im very proud of our team. We could have packed it in, but, they came to play today!!

We "packed it in" with three minutes on the clock.

hagan714 · 12-01-2014, 12:55 AM

lets see
you screw and the boss yells at you
you win and all is good for that moment in time

sounds like a standard boss employee relationship to me.

media sensationalism strikes once again.

papz · 12-01-2014, 08:07 AM

Saints coach Sean Payton on Rob Ryan, Ray Rice and drafting Drew Brees’ replacement | Black and Gold

Sean Payton on his relationship with Rob Ryan: ‘It’s been outstanding’ | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

ikecomp · 12-01-2014, 10:37 AM

As much as people will disagree with this, the defense isn't bad because of Rob Ryan. I would say however he should get 35% of the blame though. He's not responsible for poor tackling in the secondary. He's not responsible for poor gap discipline. He's not responsible for poor pursuit angles and he's not responsible for drive extending penalties.

The areas where I think ryan is responsible is the lack of understanding of situational football by our players. Also, the lack of drafting a capable linebacker. Other than that, I just see a lot of bad play by the players. The coaches job is to put you in the position to succeed. The actual execution is on the player.

lee909 · 12-01-2014, 10:45 AM

Get Ryan a proper NT,ILB,OLB and bit of rotation depth and he should be fine. The pass rushers need less snaps to stay fresh and a coverage ilb will solve many issues.

11-30-2014, 08:56 PM	#11
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic I'm sure their relationship isn't as bad as the media is trying to make it seem... Everyone gets on edge during the game and arguments happen, it's all squashed afterwords though; and winning always helps

11-30-2014, 09:02 PM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic It does, Mitch. I am telling you though, and I am not saying that SP was blowing smoke, but SP is going to say that no matter what. If he doesn't the season is tanked because the defense completely quits. What he said could be exactly how he feels, but whether he does or does not he is going to say that

11-30-2014, 09:06 PM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic Originally Posted by spkb25 It does, Mitch. I am telling you though, and I am not saying that SP was blowing smoke, but SP is going to say that no matter what. If he doesn't the season is tanked because the defense completely quits. What he said could be exactly how he feels, but whether he does or does not he is going to say that Well I ask a question in response: How do the "media" have any idea what their relationship is like? Seems to me, they're trying to create drama for whatever reason...

11-30-2014, 09:12 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Well I ask a question in response: How do the "media" have any idea what their relationship is like? Seems to me, they're trying to create drama for whatever reason... Yeah, I think you're right and the other guy that posted on this thread nailed it when he said SP just f'ed em all. Hope SP is using the us vs them thing! \|Mitch\| likes this.

11-30-2014, 11:12 PM	#15
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,721 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic The defense really stood up and played for Ryan last night. Forget they conceded 32pts 16 of them and close to 200 yards was in the final two drives of a game that was won with a defense on prevent mode that never works anywhere in the league. My only issue is we need to take the turnovers that are on offer, P Rob dropped too many that could prove costly in other games. Also stop the prevent defense it doesn't work, carry on being aggressive and we won't be any worse off, too many points given away in thr final 2 of each half all year. The offense also needs to be better in the that time making lobg drives and retaining possessions, too many three and outs. When you watch Seattle at there best if they are up by three in the final 3-4 mins you know they will pound the ball and eat the clock brees84 likes this.
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11-30-2014, 11:17 PM	#16
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Sean Payton punked out the entire press room, and rightfully so. They were all trying to call him out on rumors and \he made them completely look like fools. Hopefully that was a spark and the team will get their swagger back after this huge win. Im very proud of our team. We could have packed it in, but, they came to play today!! We "packed it in" with three minutes on the clock.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic lets see you screw and the boss yells at you you win and all is good for that moment in time sounds like a standard boss employee relationship to me. media sensationalism strikes once again. saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic Saints coach Sean Payton on Rob Ryan, Ray Rice and drafting Drew Brees’ replacement \| Black and Gold Sean Payton on his relationship with Rob Ryan: ‘It’s been outstanding’ \| Saints \| The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic As much as people will disagree with this, the defense isn't bad because of Rob Ryan. I would say however he should get 35% of the blame though. He's not responsible for poor tackling in the secondary. He's not responsible for poor gap discipline. He's not responsible for poor pursuit angles and he's not responsible for drive extending penalties. The areas where I think ryan is responsible is the lack of understanding of situational football by our players. Also, the lack of drafting a capable linebacker. Other than that, I just see a lot of bad play by the players. The coaches job is to put you in the position to succeed. The actual execution is on the player.
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12-01-2014, 10:45 AM	#20
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,721 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Payton says relationship with DC Ryan "Is Great" Praises his work ethic Get Ryan a proper NT,ILB,OLB and bit of rotation depth and he should be fine. The pass rushers need less snaps to stay fresh and a coverage ilb will solve many issues. lumm0x likes this.

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