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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Keep Payton and get a new O-line coach, WR's coach, D-line coach, LBer's coach, secondary coach,(basically clean house on defensive coaches) conditioning and strength coach, and most importantly fire McMahon and find someone who can coach up the special teams ...

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Old 12-08-2014, 02:24 PM   #21
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Keep Payton and get a new O-line coach, WR's coach, D-line coach, LBer's coach, secondary coach,(basically clean house on defensive coaches) conditioning and strength coach, and most importantly fire McMahon and find someone who can coach up the special teams players.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:33 PM   #22
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Keep Payton and get a new O-line coach, WR's coach, D-line coach, LBer's coach, secondary coach,(basically clean house on defensive coaches) conditioning and strength coach, and most importantly fire McMahon and find someone who can coach up the special teams players.
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Does Payton have any say on all caoches or is this solely the domain of the Front Office?
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Does Payton have any say on all caoches or is this solely the domain of the Front Office?
Payton picks his own staff.
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Payton picks his own staff.
Then he must start doing a better job here
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:14 PM   #25
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1. Keep Sean Payton. No question. Nearly every HC has an off year (Tomlin, Parcells, Joe Gibbs, etc.).

2. Keep RR. Yep. 2 years switching from a 4-3 to 3-4 is not enough time to gather the right personnel for one. Secondly, the NT & MLB positions have not been addressed yet for this switch in defensive scheme. This has been exploited in the SF, CIN, BAL, & CAR games to the fullest extent. What can RR do when the middle of the defense is under-sized and slow? And what can RR do when the offense turns the ball over so much or has so many 3-and-outs or the specials teams gives them lousy field position constantly. RR can share some blame, but come'on....

3. Refer to #2. Address NT & MLB positions in the Draft, in FA, and via trades aggressively. We are leaking like the Titanic in the middle of that defense and the entire NFL knows it. Poor ol' Jenkins' cannot hold that ground in the middle on his own the entire game the entire season. And Hawthorne is _____ (fill in the blank).

4. Send Goodwin out to pasture. Pick up via FA or draft or trade a kick @$$ center and press forward. I think we'd see better guard play if that happened and we'd see a better running game and better play-action pass game with that. I like Lelito, for sure, but I love Lelito as insurance as a back-up guard & center better.

5. Bye, bye Junior. I think he's lost the fans and some of his own teammates with his ripping on former Saints players who were part of that Super Bowl team. That's a no-no. He's alienated himself. Plus it's what he does for a run defense is when he's consistently letting running backs and quarterbacks run past him for 10-15 yards down field. This is undisciplined and just going for a QB sack instead of maintaining gap discipline...you know, team defense. Let him go be a 3rd down pass rush specialist for somebody else. Edabali & Powell are talented & hungry young kids. If we can't cut him for cap reasons, have him sit on defense and clean the toilets and shine the goal posts during half time. Make a statement. Take that "C" from him.

6. My Personal Favorite Move--Fire McMahon. Sure the Punt Return game was awesome against Carolina. A blind nut can find a squirrel every once in a while. But those hidden yardages make-and-break a game (see that Patriots/Chargers game last night?).

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I agree with every word. JR want work in a 3-4 unless he could play multiple lb. positions and I'm starting to think a thug type with skills could be where JR is (enter Powell and Ediaboli) let those 2 duke it out. ILB is a must next to Lofton. And a NT is exactly where I would start. Stud C and Lelito as a back-up, yes, makes a fine insurance policy. I still would draft a G and get a good RT to boot, all of our back-ups at those positions look bad except Lelito. We need to nail this draft and cut the fat.
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Vitt needs to go for sure, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Most people won't agree with you on Harbaugh. Our fan base is too "classy" for the likes of him. If we were to move on from Payton, I'd hope it would be him. Or John Gruden.
For some reason, I think Gruden finds it warm and cozy in that booth breaking down film with Mike Tireco (sp) and is relatively stress free. Don't think Jon is anxious to coach any team right now.
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Get someone in there that knows what the F they're doing when it comes to the draft. That's where all starts. We need to draft better!!!!
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Re: What changes would you make?

All this talk about the offense being stale....

Rushing attempts per game 17th
Rushing YPG 9th
YPC 4.7 4th

Yards passing per game 297 3rd
Completion percentage 69.33 1st
Sacks per game 1.6 8th

Total offense
yards per play 6.1 tied for 3rd
third down percentage 48.78 2nd (by .02% to Dallas' 48.8)
first downs per game 25.2 1st
yards per game 421 3rd
red zone TDs per game 2.4 3rd

Offense is fine, give them a short field now and then and see what they can do.

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