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FireVenturi 01-04-2005 05:29 PM

The one guy in free agency that u want....
 
even though we will not sign one of the ones we list, because we never do. Which is why I rather discuss draft. Anyway, I say K Bell-MLB. I think we could afford him through the saved money of dealing Howard and waiting to extend Deuce when he has an LT type year(Cause that is the $ that he will want)

I will be keeping track so participate. Pick only one

As always i respect yall opinions

Euphoria 01-04-2005 06:45 PM

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-Fred Smoot-

nola_swammi 01-04-2005 06:58 PM

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I like K-bell but he is not a 3 downs lb, he is a terrific search and destroy against the run, but he is too much of a liability in coverage. I say let Courtney stay at MLB. My choice @ free agent is Orlando Pace or Walter Jones.

FireVenturi 01-04-2005 07:02 PM

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I like K-bell but he is not a 3 downs lb, he is a terrific search and destroy against the run, but he is too much of a liability in coverage. I say let Courtney stay at MLB. My choice @ free agent is Orlando Pace or Walter Jones.
Pace and Jones are great choices but i think they will want serious jack($). Please pick one Nola, but great choices

saintswhodi 01-04-2005 07:05 PM

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I\'m gonna have to second Fred Smoot. Young and very good. We played much better with two man corners on the D and Smoot is a big step up over Brown.

nola_swammi 01-04-2005 07:13 PM

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Walter Jones

saintsfan1313 01-04-2005 08:49 PM

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Hmm......I really think that MM is going to be the answer for our CB situation. I\'d like to see a good SS to support the run. This is a stretch, and Im sure this didnt cross anyone\'s mind, not sure if he is a FA but I want Donovan Darius. The guy can hit and has a fire, so he almost killed someone, still has fire.Or Polamalu from the Steelers, that guy is rough. Once again, i dont think either guy is a FA, but damn I\'d like to have one of them

mutineer10 01-05-2005 02:50 AM

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Is Keith Bulluck a free agent yet???

If not - what the heck - let\'s deal AB and sign Kurt Warner, Jon Kitna or Tommy Maddox (whoever comes on the cheap ... don\'t resign Howard and spend the saved money elsewhere).

duece4pres 01-05-2005 04:36 AM

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SMOOT!! MSU product. We passed on him when he first came out in the draft.

rich006 01-05-2005 06:08 AM

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I\'m with Mutie--Kitna or Warner.

4saintspirit 01-05-2005 06:50 AM

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Fred Smoot -- Pairing him with Mike McKenzie will give us a very solid defensive backfield. With their coverage ability it will allow the safeties to play closer to the line to support the linebackers.

And we really did not pass on Smoot in the draft. Word has it that we tried to swap second rounders to get him in the second round but the redskins wanted to much for the 2nd round swap.

dberce1 01-05-2005 08:18 AM

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I\'m with Mutie--Kitna or Warner.
If Warner ever dons a Saints uniform, I shall officially revolt.

Brees would be nice, but they\'ll probably franchise him.

WhoDat 01-05-2005 08:25 AM

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Anybody know where there\'s a good FA list? KFFL used to have a great one, but I couldn\'t find it earlier this year. Anybody know of any others?

BrooksMustGo 01-05-2005 08:47 AM

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http://www.theredzone.org/2005/freeagents/index.asp

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2005/freeagents.html

Edgarton Hartwell by the way.

[Edited on 5/1/2005 by BrooksMustGo]

LKelley67 01-05-2005 10:53 AM

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franchise howard and trade him for franchised brees. have a trade for brooks lined up and get a mid/low #1.

a veteran LB ala bell seems logical with nothing but kids there.

mckenzie is the real deal and fakhir might make do. the draft looks better for there.

isnt hasslebeck a FA? ah, forget about the qb stuff, ab aint going anywhere.

kevinn1972 01-05-2005 10:54 AM

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Given AB\'s statements at the end of the season about how good he is, I say get Kitna. He would really push Brooks, he\'s handled the whole situation with Carson Palmer really well, and I would say he\'s a big time upgrade over Bouman. The way I figure it if AB doesn\'t improve this offseason, Kitna gives us a great alternative. I would rather perform hemorrhoid surgery on myself than EVER see Kurt Warner in a Saints uni.

Euphoria 01-05-2005 12:29 PM

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whew... hold the phone... Howard for Brees??? Your kidding right? NO WAY. Brees they will keep and they don\'t need help on D. Biggest impact player we could get is Smoot. With the new rule changes about interference there are no longer anything such as a Shut Down corner but you can equip yourself with the best... Mike, and craft I love, we are going to lose Ambrose unless we can get him at Saftey, he is way to old and will drop off so moving him to retire or saftey isn\'t bad idea. Smoot will also give us a reason to draft OT Aam Terry, which we so badly need help at is that line damn... Then we can address LB\'s.

stockman311 01-05-2005 01:34 PM

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We need to get Hartwell and Mark Fields back. Smoot after that and we are set after we take the safety from Georgia in the first round.

saintswhodi 01-05-2005 01:49 PM

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I would not be mad at all if we got Thomas Davis in the first round. He could be our Roy Williams. Hartwell is a given if we could somehow get the team to pony up the bucks.

SaintFanInATLHELL 01-06-2005 05:44 AM

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whew... hold the phone... Howard for Brees??? Your kidding right? NO WAY. Brees they will keep and they don\'t need help on D.
I was wondering if anyone was going to wake up from fantasyland.

SFIAH

BrooksMustGo 01-09-2005 08:18 PM

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Since we\'re all on the pipe right now.

I would like to sign Ryan Diem away from Indy for the RT spot this offseason.

ScottyRo 01-09-2005 09:47 PM

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Sign Walter Jones and move Gandy over to RT.

WhoDat 01-10-2005 08:37 AM

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Edgerton Hartwell or Julian Peterson. Neither seem likely to happen. More likely, we\'ll sign DaShon Polk and proclaim him the answer. Never heard of the guy? Yeah, me either.

SoFlaSaintsFan 01-10-2005 11:39 AM

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Champ Bailey??

o1higuy 01-10-2005 12:14 PM

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Walter Jones as well.

Puddinhead 01-10-2005 02:41 PM

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I\'m with Mutie--Kitna or Warner.
If Warner ever dons a Saints uniform, I shall officially revolt.

Brees would be nice, but they\'ll probably franchise him.
I\'m with you on Warner....but I saw Brees over the weekend trying to throw when the defense wasn\'t as occupied with trying to keep Tomlinson from ripping off 10 yards a pop, and it wasn\'t pretty. No thanks.

blackwidows 01-10-2005 06:39 PM

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Kitna or Warner are you smokin some new stuff dude don\'t let me get the asprin I think i\'m gonna have a heart attack laughing so hard. I\'m not trying to bust your balls but come on where did that come from.

FireVenturi 01-10-2005 07:13 PM

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Kitna or Warner are you smokin some new stuff dude don\'t let me get the asprin I think i\'m gonna have a heart attack laughing so hard. I\'m not trying to bust your balls but come on where did that come from.
Brees-Maybe
Kitna-No
Warner-Hell NO!!!

Danno 01-10-2005 07:46 PM

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In my own humble opinion I think Kitna, Warner, and Brees would be better for this team than Brooks. Especially if we get a new OC that installs a new system.
Even as bad as our O-line is it\'s still better than the Rams, Chargers and Giants.
Warner and Kitna would probably be the best bang for the buck.
Brees would be all this offense needs to become a consistent top 10 juggernaut, and of course a Duece who isn\'t 20 lbs overweight.

Once again, its just my opinion. And I\'ve never been considered a Brooks basher, ever.

BlackandBlue 01-10-2005 07:54 PM

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I would not be mad at all if we got Thomas Davis in the first round. He could be our Roy Williams.
Amen to that.

My vote goes to Walter Jones, btw.

FireVenturi 01-10-2005 09:31 PM

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In my own humble opinion I think Kitna, Warner, and Brees would be better for this team than Brooks. Especially if we get a new OC that installs a new system.
Even as bad as our O-line is it\'s still better than the Rams, Chargers and Giants.
Warner and Kitna would probably be the best bang for the buck.
Brees would be all this offense needs to become a consistent top 10 juggernaut, and of course a Duece who isn\'t 20 lbs overweight.

Once again, its just my opinion. And I\'ve never been considered a Brooks basher, ever.
one year makes a difference...i guess, would anybody have wanted Brees after last year?i just think like Drew... AB just needs some competition.

RDOX 01-11-2005 01:05 AM

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Is Keith Bulluck a free agent yet???

If not - what the heck - let\'s deal AB and sign Kurt Warner, Jon Kitna or Tommy Maddox (whoever comes on the cheap ... don\'t resign Howard and spend the saved money elsewhere).
Kitna or Maddox, but not Warner. Trade Leon to Green Bay for a #2 and #3 and pay the big to Pace. Move Gandy to right Tackle, draft a project to apprentice under Gandy for a year and let fly. Draft a STUD LB and cut Cie Grant loose.
Then if Smoot were available, pick him up for the other side, and cut Thomas, Ambrose and Craft loose too.

saintsplaya 01-11-2005 03:20 AM

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i think it has to be a offensive tackle. victor riley may not be coming back and spencer folau got manhandled against simeon rice. probably porkchop womack from seattle is an option. either that or we will draft a tackle. linebacker is a need also if we lose sedrick hodge. but this year isnt a great FA list. not nearly as many starters in this list as there was last year.

shadowdrinker 01-11-2005 03:40 AM

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I like Witherspoon from Carolina...

Freddie Jones from Arizona...

Kenoy Kenndey from Denver

I can\'t really see us getting an Orlando Pace kinda guy for the O line...he would just want too much I fear...

Witherspoon..yeah..that\'s who looks good to me so far

[Edited on 11/1/2005 by shadowdrinker]

Danno 01-11-2005 06:47 AM

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Make a list of 5 or 6 \"difference makers\" and go after them full speed.
Target LT, DT, LB, RT, OG.

Fill in the gaps with B-list FA\'s, like Craft, Young, Stecker etc.

Plan your draft after you see who you were or weren\'t able to sign.

DO NOT draft someone at a position of strength like DE or WR or starting RB (a good 3rd/4th round back-up would be nice though in case Mcfat-boy comes into camp outta shape again)

RDOX 01-11-2005 08:36 PM

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Make a list of 5 or 6 \"difference makers\" and go after them full speed.
Target LT, DT, LB, RT, OG.

Fill in the gaps with B-list FA\'s, like Craft, Young, Stecker etc.

Plan your draft after you see who you were or weren\'t able to sign.

DO NOT draft someone at a position of strength like DE or WR or starting RB (a good 3rd/4th round back-up would be nice though in case Mcfat-boy comes into camp outta shape again)
I couldn\'t agree more. Now watch, I\'d bet the house note that Hazlett and LoomBoom draft a DE, WR, or Stud RB. It\'s in the cards. These people don\'t have a clue. I\'d also wager that the \"excuse\" for drafting one of the 3 above is because they\'re \"fast.\"


Rsanders24 01-11-2005 11:20 PM

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I read most of these threads and alot of the players you mention are not reasonable signings like Walter Jones and Orlando Pace, their own team can\'t sign them because they want $10M a year that\'s why they keep getting the franchise tag put on them. Line Backers most of them are only as good as the DL\' s that are in front of them if your DL isn\'t effective than your LB\'s will be blocked and won\'t be able to run free and make tackles. So the first thing is to sure up the middle of the DL(if you don\'t believe me look at Urlacher) and second make sure that they will work in the system that they are using. None of the QB\'s that are listed would be an improvement over what we have so why just give away money because if we trade Brooks we take the hit of his bonus, part of his salary, and then we still have to sign someone so unless someone can come up with a better QB and not some riduclous trade for one I don\'t see that position changing much. I really would like Howard to be resigned because I think that he is the most valuable and versitle person that we have on the DL. I think is\'t too early to say who will be free agents I think that a lot of oter good players will be released for cap reasons so we will see.

RDOX 01-12-2005 05:42 AM

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I read most of these threads and alot of the players you mention are not reasonable signings like Walter Jones and Orlando Pace, their own team can\'t sign them because they want $10M a year that\'s why they keep getting the franchise tag put on them. Line Backers most of them are only as good as the DL\' s that are in front of them if your DL isn\'t effective than your LB\'s will be blocked and won\'t be able to run free and make tackles. So the first thing is to sure up the middle of the DL(if you don\'t believe me look at Urlacher) and second make sure that they will work in the system that they are using. None of the QB\'s that are listed would be an improvement over what we have so why just give away money because if we trade Brooks we take the hit of his bonus, part of his salary, and then we still have to sign someone so unless someone can come up with a better QB and not some riduclous trade for one I don\'t see that position changing much. I really would like Howard to be resigned because I think that he is the most valuable and versitle person that we have on the DL. I think is\'t too early to say who will be free agents I think that a lot of oter good players will be released for cap reasons so we will see.
You make a great point about the LB\'s and the quality of the D-line. It looks like Pease has kicked this unit up a bit and you are seeing his \"system\" finally come to fruition at the end of the season.

With regard to Brooks. Your analysis of his salary situation may be correct, however, Brooks has shot himself in the foot with all of his talk about \"greatness\" etc. While getting someone like Kitna or Maddox, may not be a physical upgrade, it very well may be an emotional one for the TEAM. Watching Brooks over the past 4 years has made one thing glaringly clear. He wants only what is good for him. He is immature, selfish, and self absorbed. Bringing in a TEAM player with fewer tools, but a better attitude may catalyze the Offense into what it has been touted it can be.

WhoDat 01-12-2005 08:34 AM

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In my own humble opinion I think Kitna, Warner, and Brees would be better for this team than Brooks. Especially if we get a new OC that installs a new system.
Danno, are you kidding? Please tell me you\'re kidding. Brees I get after the monster year he had. Kitna, b/c he\'s a Trent Dilfer type who is wasting away behind a young stud. But Kurt Warner?!?!?! Are you serious? The guy may be MORE fumble prone and careless with the ball than Brooks. He\'s just as slow to to make decisions, seems just as dumb, isn\'t half the athlete, and is much much older. No thanks - I keep Leon over Warner. I am still not convinced Warner was ever much of anything besides the beneficiary of circumstance.

Likewise, why do you want to go to the ball control offense (I think you said it in another thread)? I\'m not so sure this team can be the Rams or Colts anymore, but it could definitely be the Chargers or Steelers. Maybe it\'s just semantics, but for me, ball control means keep it on the ground, and beat teams 10-7. We can\'t do that - we\'ll have to score at least 20 points a game to win, and probably 25.

Danno 01-12-2005 10:07 AM

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Likewise, why do you want to go to the ball control offense (I think you said it in another thread)? I\'m not so sure this team can be the Rams or Colts anymore, but it could definitely be the Chargers or Steelers. Maybe it\'s just semantics, but for me, ball control means keep it on the ground, and beat teams 10-7. We can\'t do that - we\'ll have to score at least 20 points a game to win, and probably 25.
I don\'t think it was me you\'re referring to. I think we have the personnel to go vertical. Our slowest WR runs a 4.4. Of course our star RB is balooning into a FB but I think he\'ll come into camp next year fit and trim. Out TE\'s are capable of stretching the field. Our QB has a strong arm.

I\'ve complained about not going deep all year. You must be thinking of someone else. Ball control? Not me.

I am curious, some people have implied AB is so bad that just about anyone would be better. Do you really think Warner, who would be awfully cheap, would be worse than AB?


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