Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015

AlaskaSaints · 12-08-2014, 11:38 PM

"Pay da man" = CANCER

|Mitch| · 12-09-2014, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus

Can someone please explain to me the difference between "Dead Money" and "Cap Number"?

Cap Number is the total contract, including guaranteed + bonuses
Dead Money is the guaranteed, Example: Drew Brews signed a 5 year 100,000,000 million contract; 40 guaranteed... After this year, we will still owe him 14,800,000 of the guaranteed, so say you cut him after this year, you still have to pay him the 14 million...

|Mitch| · 12-09-2014, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

"Pay da man" = CANCER

Don't "Pay da man" = Raiders 2.0

AlaskaSaints · 12-09-2014, 01:24 AM

Raiders haven't had anybody to pay for over ten years! :ROFLMAO:

jeanpierre · 12-09-2014, 03:42 AM

Being a cap manager doesn't make you a general manager...

We still have one more year with Cam Jordan as we have the extra year option on him as a former first round pick...

As the pass rush from Galette is non-existent, I don't see why we should be extending/retaining him...

Cruize · 12-09-2014, 08:40 AM

A group of UDFA's at G, LB, CB and S can just as easily go 5-8. I guarantee they they will put out more effort and be more fun to watch.

Danno · 12-09-2014, 08:52 AM

We've been through this before, this season. I forget which thread but it was pointed out that a couple of reasonable restructures, a couple of cuts and we shave over 20 million off the cap in the blink of an eye.

xan · 12-09-2014, 08:58 AM

Next year should tell you all you need to know about what's happening this year.

ScottF · 12-09-2014, 08:59 AM

We have several restructure candidates, and Loomis always fights for every nickel. We cut Graham to save a half million, and presto, he's back at a lower wage.
If Brees pulls a Brady in regards to salary, this discussion is over in 5 seconds.

I am more concerned about the 8 losses and counting than the offseason.

xan · 12-09-2014, 01:17 PM

most of the 2014 Saints won't be here in 2015, and those that have potential for additional professional years aren't going to put their future earnings on the line for this abortion of a year. Even if Brees does restructure, there is a huge amount of cap tied into a few players. Teams that don't screw up are the ones that don't overpay for marginal talent. We have too much of that.

Let's see what this team looks like in two years, as it is blowing up now.

Next season will likely be as bad as this one.

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12-09-2014, 12:24 AM	#12
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 Originally Posted by Saint in Aus Can someone please explain to me the difference between "Dead Money" and "Cap Number"? Cap Number is the total contract, including guaranteed + bonuses Dead Money is the guaranteed, Example: Drew Brews signed a 5 year 100,000,000 million contract; 40 guaranteed... After this year, we will still owe him 14,800,000 of the guaranteed, so say you cut him after this year, you still have to pay him the 14 million...

12-09-2014, 12:26 AM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints "Pay da man" = CANCER Don't "Pay da man" = Raiders 2.0 brees84 likes this.

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12-09-2014, 03:42 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 Being a cap manager doesn't make you a general manager... We still have one more year with Cam Jordan as we have the extra year option on him as a former first round pick... As the pass rush from Galette is non-existent, I don't see why we should be extending/retaining him...

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12-09-2014, 08:40 AM	#16
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,294	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 A group of UDFA's at G, LB, CB and S can just as easily go 5-8. I guarantee they they will put out more effort and be more fun to watch.
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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 We've been through this before, this season. I forget which thread but it was pointed out that a couple of reasonable restructures, a couple of cuts and we shave over 20 million off the cap in the blink of an eye.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 Next year should tell you all you need to know about what's happening this year. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 We have several restructure candidates, and Loomis always fights for every nickel. We cut Graham to save a half million, and presto, he's back at a lower wage. If Brees pulls a Brady in regards to salary, this discussion is over in 5 seconds. I am more concerned about the 8 losses and counting than the offseason. lumm0x likes this.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Salary Cap Crisis Looming in 2015 most of the 2014 Saints won't be here in 2015, and those that have potential for additional professional years aren't going to put their future earnings on the line for this abortion of a year. Even if Brees does restructure, there is a huge amount of cap tied into a few players. Teams that don't screw up are the ones that don't overpay for marginal talent. We have too much of that. Let's see what this team looks like in two years, as it is blowing up now. Next season will likely be as bad as this one.
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